Wow Camille is more broken than ekko on his release

Rozair·Dec 13, 2016·6 votes·5,844 views

Hyper mobile champion with a heal a slow a stun true damage and a wall dash. Couldnt ask for a new yasuo more than that..

17 Comments

ChaddyFantomeDec 13, 20164 votes

she cant teamfight for her life. Group and she is pretty much useless

Bez BarterzDec 14, 20161 votes

its about getting soloed out by her, i literally had no escape vs her my last game she just dashed to me stunned and i was Ko plus the insane amount of health she was gaining back made it practically impossible to kill her

ChaddyFantomeDec 14, 20161 votes

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its about getting soloed out by her, i literally had no escape vs her my last game she just dashed to me stunned and i was Ko plus the insane amount of health she was gaining back made it practically impossible to kill her

not saying she isn't opressive. I am giving you tips in he meantime.

RivetAceDec 13, 20163 votes

Irelia slow, stun, true damage, plenty of dashage.

Irelia BotDec 13, 20163 votes

Has to have a target to dash.

We are in the "OMG SO OP" phase right now. Basically every champ has it when added or reworked and most are not seen as a issue after about a month unless they rally are proving to have over the top skills. Aka Yasuo and 45 second E Illaio.

RozairDec 14, 20161 votes

AurelionSol Taliyah Ivern all sucked on release

Average GergDec 13, 20162 votes

Seriously, so broken. In comparison to the two champions put forth of Lee Sin and Irelia. It's mostly her E, she can go over walls and cover insane distance. And the big difference is not needing a target. Irelia needs an enemy champion, Lee Sin needs an enemy or to use a ward. Camille can just see a wall.

Is this the Anivia troll, troll?

SukishooDec 13, 20162 votes

I've been playing her for like 7 matches now... yeah she's got a good amount of power right now.

Jarak ElerionDec 14, 20162 votes

How can the developers design a champion like her and not think that it might be wrong to give her every mechanic the game has. I mean, just checking the boxes, objectively: Passive: She has a 20% of max hp shield on a low cd (20-10s) (in comparison, Malphite and vi shield is 10%) Q: low cd (6s), aa enhancer/reset that gives her extra dmg, 40% MS for 1s and a second enhanced attack that can inflict TRUE DAMAGE W: spell that gives both AOE (waveclear), a SLOW (90%, nothing less), a HEAL and MAX HP % DMG (8% without Bonus AD) E (most broken spell): She has a double dash (UNTARGETED) with 800 range on a fairly low cooldown (10s maxed WIthout cdr) that gives huge mobility, hops over walls, escape and aggression

Same dash gives her a 1s STUN, and on top of it, up to 90% Attack Speed for 5sec if she hits a champion (warwick w is 80% for 6s, teamwide, but its all the spell does) R: unique spell mechanic that locks out of a zone all ennemies but her target, which is trapped for 4s with ZERO escape and CURRENT HP % DMG is inflicted to the target on EACH AA

TO make things worse, Camille has low mana costs on her spells (25 for Q, 50 to 70 for W, 50 for E), fairly low cds and a build path that favors cdr, at least one AD scaling on all her spells but the ulti...

Sooooo, to sum things up, she has in her kit: SHIELD, STUN, SLOW, DOUBLE DASH, HEAL, AOE, MS buff, AS buff, TRUE DMG, %HP DMG (both Max HP and current HP) and a new "TRAP ZONE" mechanic.... Its simple, she can kill squishies in 1.5 sec with her team unable to do anything (E jump in, ulti, AA, Q, AA, Q and dead adc), she can deal with tanks with her true dmg, current and max HP % dmg, and she cannot be bullied in lane thanks to her aoe and heal on W... What is her weakness, who is her counter, what is the famous room for counterplay that RIOT always speaks about ?

I mean come on, even on paper it sounds awkward to have that much mechanics on a single champion, but her numbers are quite high too, especially her dmg and scaling... Honestly, i would withdraw one mechanic from each spell and she would still be fine (like remove heal from W, AS buff from E, MS from Q...)

It might seem like a rant, but I think honestly RIOT does usually a good job balancing champions, but this is pure madness, and i'm amazed it went through devs and the PBE like that....

RozairDec 14, 20161 votes

on paper she looks totally op. I think that her e is overloaded to the max. To be fair she is pretty balenced until she hits late game. Her late game is just bullshit. 6 second cooldown double dash with a ton of true damage and her ult. its pretty op.

DualBlowDec 16, 20161 votes

I think that she is gonna get nerfed soon everybody is abusing her for freeelo even some youtubers said thats she is so strong indeed she deserves the Azir/Kalista treatment for me.

L8ergtgkillDec 21, 20161 votes

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I think that she is gonna get nerfed soon everybody is abusing her for freeelo even some youtubers said thats she is so strong indeed she deserves the Azir/Kalista treatment for me.

No one is getting Freelo from her... She has a insane ban rate.

L8ergtgkillDec 21, 20161 votes

OK... I am a Mastery Level 7 Camille (If you dont believe me you can look on http://championmasterylookup.derpthemeus.com/ and search my name in NA server) and have over 37k mastery points (Around 50-60 games) and may I just say that some of this "Camille is OP" is misunderstood as O.P. (I will be going Point by Point to Explain things.

Passive: She has a 20% of max hp shield on a low cd (20-10s) (in comparison, Malphite and vi shield is 10%) A. Admitiably 20% is high however this shield also degrades over time and you need to AA in order to receive this shield
(Unlike 's which is applied on hit.) However as a Camille player I know that this shield should only be used for short trades. for substain fights Camille is often the one who is the loser (Unless the Camille player knows how to
really use her abilities and CD's to her advantage which is difficult (this is where most Camille 's fail). So if people Know how to fight Camille they will try to extend the fight to make the trade in their favor... Plus with anyone who is Range or range ability can trade without having the shield absorbing all the damage unlike Malphite . Q: low cd (6s), aa enhancer/reset that gives her extra dmg, 40% MS for 1s and a second enhanced attack that can inflict TRUE DAMAGE A. This is the Bread and butter of Camille . However this is easily messed up whether people do it without causing the AA reset or people mess up the Short window for the True Damage. That window is extremely small. Also you have to HIT enemy Champion to get the MS bonus. So this cannot be used as a gap closer unlike Ahri Q or a different champ. Also it is a low Cool down but it isent low Enough where a good Camille player is gonna want to continue the trade. Her best interest are small quick trades just over her shield length/ True Damage Q. W: spell that gives both AOE (waveclear), a SLOW (90%, nothing less), a HEAL and MAX HP % DMG (8% without Bonus AD) A. This is a just a weak version of a Darius ability. Also THIS IS A MANA drain. This ability is what give Camille just the little bit of sustain she needs to not be total bullied out of lane by a range champ or any other match up. This also has a max heal Cap. So its not like your healing 200 hp each use. It usually on gives about 60 hp earlier game and later game the heal doesn't matter its the slow that helps. That slow at 90% is high but Ivern had the same 90% slow on release. I do agree on that slow ration needs to be lower. Also THIS IS AWFUL WAVE CLEAR!!!. I do use it for wave clear only when I have to in order to reach CS that i would not get otherwise or to heal a little. However this is such a mana drain that any Camille who is spamming this is not playing her properly. E (most broken spell): She has a double dash (UNTARGETED) with 800 range on a fairly low cooldown (10s maxed WIthout cdr) that gives huge mobility, hops over walls, escape and aggression A. Firstly...Its 16 Seconds. Also this is a good ability, only if used responsibly... This ability means you are going HAM. You are stuck with whatever you just stepped into unless somehow u can live long enough for it to come back up. Also, its a 1 second stun..Their are many champs with stuns that can spam it just as much as Camille including Xerath Anivia , and AurelionSol . It does serve as a great escape however its half the range of the second Q cast if not towards a champion. Also it does have a high CD at high Levels. The attack speed is high and should and will be Nerfed. My own Opinion. A. As a person who has played as and against a Camille I believe that she is not as OP as people believe. The reason why she is as good as she is, is because people don't know how to handle her. Make her overextend and I think people will start to do well when matched up against her. She is also High Skill Sealing! Ever see a Camille fail? I sure have! But when a good Camille is behind the screen, think about it. Camille is suppose to be the ultimate duelist.
Doesn't it make sense she wins her lane with someone skilled is playing her?

Yoshino334Dec 14, 20161 votes

i was level 2 full hp and camille was level 2 full hp. 2 abilities from camille and im at 100 hp. Fair

Mr KillalotDec 15, 20161 votes

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i was level 2 full hp and camille was level 2 full hp. 2 abilities from camille and im at 100 hp. Fair

Except that "2 abilities" actually played something more like: get hit by outer W, AA-Q-AA-empowered Q-AA-AA etc. If she did that much damage to you that early, it's because you let her.

DualBlowDec 14, 20161 votes

There's litteraly no counter if you are an adc main i feel pity for you guys she will just E then R she will know out your support and yeah you are dead she has like 3k hp with trinity titanic she is undead has true damage incretible dash That Stuns an uncounterable ultimate with only Some exeptions (knockback) like lol you cant flash and with this gapcloser many ppl will just flash in the ult animation and thats it your dead she is like a tank assasin like tank rengar this is nothing like a bruiser it's like a full tank riven with a loads of damage she must be nerfed.