@Riot idea for shaco to have a new E

Azteryz··2 votes·5,832 views

I recently had an idea about replacing shacos e with something more thematic as well as better gameplay

(new) passive: every 5 autos shaco stabs his target in the eye if the target is a monster/minion they are blind for x seconds if its a champion then they are slowed

Second passive: Shaco passivley gains throwing knifes as charges (think gp barrel system) can carry a max of 2/3/5 (knife charges based on level not rank)

(new) active: Shaco throws his throwing knife in a line skill shot if he hits a target unit they are dealt damage as a bleed and marked, if shaco throws two consecutive knifes shaco can hover his mouse over the "victim" and then recast his e to teleport behind the target pulling out both knifes and applying a HEAVY slow but for a small duration (he also refreshes both his knifes he pulled out

alternatively shaco can also throw his knife at a terrain/wall and the knife will be stuck to the wall (think throwing darts) while hovering the mouse over the knife and recasting e shaco can teleport to it and grab it out

enemies can also destroy throwing knifes stuck on walls

so this is how i feel we can make shaco fit his theme even more by further cementing his knife prowess since his jack in the box and decieve are pretty well known tell me what you guys feel about this i'm open to feed back and other ideas we can feed off eachother

and if a rioter can see this and give their feedback then ill buy them a lolly poppy skin (no really thank you tho)

7 Comments

LegacyDAP1 votes

Still no. Bursty assassin, and 5 AA's don't mix well. The passive right now is fine.

What's with the skill shots? Jeez. Please don't make every champ NEED a skill shot.

It sounds like a good change, but not on Shaco. E already slows, and applies a poison, and it doesn't need a bleed.

Sounds like an overall net nerf which Shaco doesn't really need, Plus the teleport behind the back thing will just leave him with (technically) 2 flashes built in the kit.

Azteryz1 votes

all of this is subject to change of course like tweaks and everything thankyou for commenting :)

and im putting this in regards to get rid of the early slow/poison and let it bleed

in regards to to him having two flashes i understand mobile champs can be fustrating and hard to deal with COUGH YASUO but if there was ever a champ whos main deal is to be a sneaky ambush slippery person then it would be shaco

and i dont really see shaco right now as a bursty assassin and this isnt because i think thats not who he is its because compared to most other bursty assassins shaco could really use some work

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

so ,it becomes a minato knuai? no

Shaco isn't looking for mobility, His original designe was meant to have a Troll champion that can assassinate/ambush a squishy and deal sustained damage (clone, passive, on hit effect). With this new E none of those purposes are satisfied

Azteryz1 votes

the old e doesnt exactly acomplish that but with the new one i can see there being more troll slipery tactics for shaco

*throw e at wall next to red buff wait for enemy to come by, steal red buff run one way then e out another

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

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the old e doesnt exactly acomplish that but with the new one i can see there being more troll slipery tactics for shaco

*throw e at wall next to red buff wait for enemy to come by, steal red buff run one way then e out another

old E doesn't acomplish that, that's why every shaco mains know that if a rework should come, his E should move because it ads nothing to shaco's identity

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all of this is subject to change of course like tweaks and everything thankyou for commenting :)

and im putting this in regards to get rid of the early slow/poison and let it bleed

in regards to to him having two flashes i understand mobile champs can be fustrating and hard to deal with COUGH YASUO but if there was ever a champ whos main deal is to be a sneaky ambush slippery person then it would be shaco

and i dont really see shaco right now as a bursty assassin and this isnt because i think thats not who he is its because compared to most other bursty assassins shaco could really use some work {quoted}

all of this is subject to change of course like tweaks and everything thankyou for commenting :)

and im putting this in regards to get rid of the early slow/poison and let it bleed

in regards to to him having two flashes i understand mobile champs can be fustrating and hard to deal with COUGH YASUO but if there was ever a champ whos main deal is to be a sneaky ambush slippery person then it would be shaco

and i dont really see shaco right now as a bursty assassin and this isnt because i think thats not who he is its because compared to most other bursty assassins shaco could really use some work

yasuo E isn't a flash, it's a low speed dash that can be stopped

shaco's Q and your E is a flash thought

Azteryz1 votes

i was regarding mobility in general which involves yasuos e as an example of when it can be too much i wasnt refering to exactly to a flash

Lanakila Au1 votes

It sounds super bad ass. I think that most champs should have skill shots as it adds counter play. The teleporting to a wall is a little much though

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