Let’s Talk: Preseason state of AP and Magic Penetration

RocketRelm··3 votes·354 views

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Preseason is going to change a lot of things, most of all the landscape of AP. A truckload of MR is flooding out of the system, up to 38 for squishes total in endgame (yes you heard that right, 27 for MR/lvl blues, 11 for Windspeakers Blessing on the support), and only 15 flat pen is going away with it (8.7 from runes, 6 from masteries).

What this means is that a squishy champion will ‘genuinely’ sit on 30-38.5 MR for a large portion of the game, and not just incidentally bloat up to 70-80 MR with 0 investment. Sorc Boots + Haunting Rush + Sudden Impact will actually result in True Damage unless the ADC finds some way to grab some cheap MR (which currently is either a minimal dip into resolve secondary, or Merc Treads purely because it is a 25 MR item that doesn’t detour them off the Inf Edge + Zeal Item core rush).

This looks like a grand feast for AP champions, but Riot will balance Magic Damage around this new equilibrium. I’m not sure which way they’ll balance this, lopping a few points off the Flat Pen items is promising but exacerbates their late game scaling issue, reducing the damage of mages wholesale will make them extremely ineffective versus anybody with an MR item.

These issues are going to be coupled with the fact that AP has weird scaling issues. AP has been sucked out of the system, and Deathcap’s been made clunky because the bar for “I shouldn’t be allowed to 100-0 you without a huge amount of effort” has been set at “the actual 0 defense investment ADC”.

Void Staff’s been the band-aid here, providing a scaling item that provides proportionally more damage to tank targets than squishy champions, but is still value-efficient versus low MR investment targets (which wind up at 70-80 MR because of aforementioned bloat). Void Staff actually amounts to 24.5 flat pen (!) on that enemy.

On live it functionally has no failure case. Now? Void Staff is actually a bad buy in some circumstances, but without that band-aid AP champions are in an awkward spot when it comes to damage dealing late game fantasies.

Understand me when I say that Void Staff no longer being the magic scaling item is a healthy thing for the game. The “I get this when the enemy stacks MR” item shouldn’t be the correct choice when there are 0-1 MR items between the 5 enemy champions.

This is a big reason why MR items are better/more prolific than AR items, because Void Staff is inherently core on mid-late game AP damage dealers, so 35% of the MR value is defunct on purchase. If void staff weren’t literally core as a second-third item rush, MR items wouldn’t need to be so overwhelming.

Tl:dr: I believe this is a solvable problem, but it’s going to cause a lot of changes for what AP means to the game, and the aftershocks are going to cascade through almost every item on the APvMR half of the store. It certainly won’t be easy.

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EkyonKun2 votes

I still think Void Staff will be essential in mid-high elo. There are just too many MR options in the game, and ANYONE can build them with relative comfort. An ADC isn't forced to build item 3065 if he wants to survive burst. A tank isn't pressured into needing item 3028 or something silly. Every class has their own MR itemization which provides stats they need/want Assassins: item 3156 ADC: item 3139 Mages: item 3102 Tanks: item 3065 item 3194 item 3001 item 3193 item 3512 Supports: item 3222 item 3190 item 3174 item 3050 On-Hit Champions: item 3091 (Situational, but still an option) Does anyone even build this anymore: item 3060

Jokes aside, on top of all these, you also have item 3111 which anyone can build, and gives a mage plenty reason to pick up a item 3135 on its own. It's just too easy to get MR nowadays without sacrificing a huge part of your build. Void Staff is pretty much gonna show up every game the same way it always has been until it becomes % Bonus MR. I'm not saying I want this to happen, but that's just how things are. Will Season 8 be balanced for mages? I have no idea. We just have to wait and see.

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