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Part of the reason Mages>Assassins: Assassins don't have a Morellonomicon or RoA

TotalJerk··6 votes·909 views

Rod of Ages:

  • Cheap (2700 Gold)
  • Almost fully (93.52%) gold efficient immediately upon purchase
  • becomes fully efficient 2 minutes after purchase
  • becomes 150.68% gold efficient once fully stacked without the Catalyst passive
  • Catalyst is lowkey busted

Morellonomicon:

  • 112% Gold efficiency without either passive on purchase
  • gives loads of mana for simply contributing anything to a kill
  • extremely good build path
  • gives 8 seconds of grievous wounds to wounded enemies as an afterthought
  • early lost chapter is ridiculously busted

AD assassins simply do not have any "bread and butter" items that are remotely as strong as these two items. The majority of their items cost more and are less gold efficient. Not only do the completed items themselves suffer from this problem, so do the components. The value of the passives/actives is subjective, but in terms of raw stats mages simply get far more out of their first finished item than assassins do.

15 Comments

agbudar5 votes

item 3071 perhaps not cheap but it sure got a WHOLE lot more then either of those items item 3814 same price can literally make the mage wana uninstall item 3156 pricier but again this will "outplay" the entire mage roster item 3155 super cheap super efficient item to deal with any early mage item 3139 super expensive but it basically allows you to ignore their harass item 3078 this item will make you outplay anyone. no mage can afford to efficiently buy this. item 3111 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

when is the last time you saw a mage go item 3047 and actually win the game? item 3111 item 3071 item 3156 item 3814 item 3139 item 3142 and you should not lose any trade or all in with any mage period.

lethality? check 40% cdr? check 285 bonus ad? check 140 bonus mr? check 2 actives to remove stuns or spells and a shield that saves you when you fuck up

WoonStruck2 votes

Exhibit A of why you are barely above bronze after 120 games.

#Only thing mages can be salty about is Hexdrinker. Not even Maw.

Ahristocats2 votes

{quoted} item 3155

how exactly? hexdrinker is the best item in the game against magic damage dealer that FIGHT, it does nothing against poke

{quoted} item 3071

you're aware that this is the most garbage item on almost every assassin because they do not get the 6 stacks immediatly when they burst you? not removing any armor?

{quoted} lethality? check 40% cdr? check 285 bonus ad? check 140 bonus mr? check 2 actives to remove stuns or spells and a shield that saves you when you fuck up

Great, you wasted YOUR ENTIRE ITEMIZATION on just a single enemy champion that can just focus an other target, and remove half of all of what you built just with item 3135 Alex because you might want to tell me what's the best between 140 mr and 200 armor, the mage will be able to destroy your frontline while you can't do this, you're forced to go to the backline and get destroyed by the adc if you don't get destroyed by the adc, it's either the bruiser or the mage with void staff and their retarded 2000 damage+ combo

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when is the last time you saw a mage go item 3047 and actually win the game?

100% of the time a mage went against an assassin because those mages knew how the game work, it's diamond 1 here

i even had a Jhin that built it against zed some games ago

Remove Jungle2 votes

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item 3071 perhaps not cheap but it sure got a WHOLE lot more then either of those items item 3814 same price can literally make the mage wana uninstall item 3156 pricier but again this will "outplay" the entire mage roster item 3155 super cheap super efficient item to deal with any early mage item 3139 super expensive but it basically allows you to ignore their harass item 3078 this item will make you outplay anyone. no mage can afford to efficiently buy this. item 3111 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

when is the last time you saw a mage go item 3047 and actually win the game? item 3111 item 3071 item 3156 item 3814 item 3139 item 3142 and you should not lose any trade or all in with any mage period.

lethality? check 40% cdr? check 285 bonus ad? check 140 bonus mr? check 2 actives to remove stuns or spells and a shield that saves you when you fuck up

had a guy while 2 days back asked why mages can't have more deff items like QSS etc. and you are qqing about that assassins have more defensive/offensive items. what i told him i will tell you.

It is all about how the ROLE IS PLAYED.

Mages stand back in the backline deal dmg.Assassins need to dive enemy backline.

^this, Assassins have to dive a the enemy backline they need the tools do succeed.

If riot released more defensive items for mages they would become unkillable.

It is already god demn hard to kill a mage if she positions really well.

ChaddyFantome3 votes

I always saw item 3071 as the assassin item 3165 .

Gives HP, Armor Shred, MS on physical damage, AD and 20% CDR.

JavelinJoe1 votes

add an Executioner's calling and I would argue it is better imo.

agbudar1 votes

morrello gets grievious wounds bc gets armor shred

JavelinJoe3 votes

Pick one, 2, 3 or all 4 item 3071 item 3147 item 3142 item 3814 plus item 3123 with no downside to doing so.

item 3147 gets stronger the more lethality you have. item 3123 is by far the best grievous woulds item. ANY ad damage applies grievous wounds for 3 seconds regardless of their remaining health level and costs only 800g with a build component and is also a component itself.

TotalJerk1 votes

Every last one of those items are gold inefficent, expensive, and the components don't offer much more than damage.

JavelinJoe1 votes

800g is real expensive, I don't know how I will ever be able to afford it (sarcasm). Good thing I can buy 350g of it and grab a longsword, then pay the remaining 450g later.

Bunb0t3 votes

Plus they have hexdrinker as a perfectly acceptable first back item and lose zero damage for it while also fucking over any ap mid they're against. And it also builds into a much stronger version of itself.

ZapMyHeart2 votes

item 3157 <---Mages' only "defense" against AD assassins. It is also gold inefficient and its build path royally messes up their early game damage output, unlike item 3155

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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item 3157 <---Mages' only "defense" against AD assassins. It is also gold inefficient and its build path royally messes up their early game damage output, unlike item 3155

How is an item with the most powerful active in the game and a sexy 10% CDR at a messily 2900g gold inefficient?

WoonStruck1 votes

AD assassins don't need "bread and butter" items.

Mages just need Morello's to not be busted and for RoA to start ~25% less efficient (sum, not total) OR end ~25% less efficient.

Calabok1 votes

Mages < Ass Ass ins

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