VI doesnt need rangers!

Tails Doll·Jul 17, 2015·2 votes·533 views

She doesnt NEED IT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP BUILD THAT STUPID ITEM ON VI, STOP BUTCHERING MY FAV CHAMP WITH YOUR DUMB AS HELL BUILDS.

EDIT: Down voted by "sated junglers".

13 Comments

3tysonJul 17, 20153 votes

item 3713 is never a bad item especialy on champs with mana

stop forcing your dumb as build onto other people

Tails DollJul 17, 20151 votes

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is never a bad item especialy on champs with mana

stop forcing your dumb as build onto other people

Stop using items that got no use on champs that they dont need them.

It's useless on Vi, she like the slow much much much muchhhh more thatn some sustain that she bearly needs. By the time you have a single offensive item, even just the warrior enchant, you dont need the hp, and about the mana, you just need one E to kill most camps.

So no, stop using your stupid builds on champs that dont need them and then sucking at the game and ffing at 20.

I have yet to see a single Vi that has actually done something with the item. Every time I see one, either they suck and FF at 20, or get carried super hard by much much much competent players.

EDIT: And what are the odds, you are silver 4.

3tysonJul 17, 20152 votes

stop focussing on other peoples plays start focussing on yours what ever works for you is not the only way

rangers gives you extra wave clear (unlike chilling you wont miss drag) more mana and hp = more ganks/highr hp while ganking better spot while being counter ganked making it really not a bad item on annyone at all and wich makes it a pretty strong early game item

i personaly wouldnt get it on a jungler like reksai or zac because they dont need the sustain from it or the mana how ever if id see someone else get it id understand how overloaded this item is and respect their rights to build in what ever way they are used to play and are confident that works for them

maybe you should try that to and call it the silver 4 method it might get u somewhere

Tails DollJul 17, 20151 votes

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stop focussing on other peoples plays start focussing on yours what ever works for you is not the only way

rangers gives you extra wave clear (unlike chilling you wont miss drag) more mana and hp = more ganks/highr hp while ganking better spot while being counter ganked making it really not a bad item on annyone at all and wich makes it a pretty strong early game item

i personaly wouldnt get it on a jungler like reksai or zac because they dont need the sustain from it or the mana how ever if id see someone else get it id understand how overloaded this item is and respect their rights to build in what ever way they are used to play and are confident that works for them

maybe you should try that to and call it the silver 4 method it might get u somewhere

Am already somowhere, dont need your advises. Instead you should listen to someone who actually knows what they are doing.

Rangers is used in champs that have a hard time clearing the jungle. J4/Rammus/Amumu are the prime example of that. Of meta junglers like Fizz can also use it too, mostly because he really needs to spam his skills to clear the jungle.

You can use rangers on every jungler, that much is true. The Hp/Mp sustain it offers can really help you stay healthy. But that's basically all that offers.Sustain.

Sustain that Vi doesnt need. Why? Cuz shield, AoE dmg, and AS passive plus %hp dmg. You know what that means? She clears every camp without even sweating.

The only few times I have actually run OOM on Vi has being when I overly stay on the map and wont back up for about 10 min. And I can hardly blame it on my item choices.

Further more, if you cant time your smites so that's up when taking dragon then it's your own fault, not the items you got. Infact you hardly need to smite anything, unless counter jungling. You just need to smite golems,raptors and wolfs.

Golems for clearing. Raptos for invading. Wolfs for fear of invasion.

So why pick stalker? Simple. It's the best jungle item there is. It gives you true dmg (even tho it's small, every now and then i get kills with it that i wouldnt have otherwise, or simply for the style points) and it gives you slow. So what does this means? You are stronger. Vi has 2 hard cc. Ad to that a soft cc + a small MS bonus.

Not only that. But Vi is a ganker. She is a fighter. She wants to fight, so give her more tools to be stronger on fights, and she is happy. Sustain? She doesnt need. Jungle bearly does anything to her hp, and if you dont spam her Q, or dont power farm her jungle, or over stay your welcome she wont run OOM. And that's considering all the ganking you are doing, dont think you are just farming, you are also ganking and putting some early pressure on your lanes, and with the little help stalker offers, means she is even more effective.

Pro tip: If you know you can take your time, you can kill crap without using any skill, procing the hp/mp passive regen from machete/all it's incarnations. This will help you keep your stats up.

Dont use rangers. It's dumb and you are actually putting yourself in a worst place that you should be.

3tysonJul 17, 20151 votes

tl;dr

Tails DollJul 17, 20151 votes

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tl;dr

Good for you. Stay bad.

3tysonJul 17, 20152 votes

go buy yourself a new personality somewheere

Only Play DariusJul 17, 20152 votes

Her clears are pretty poor compared to other junglers, and she has no sustain. She makes up for it however with her insanely strong ganks.

FantasySniperJul 17, 20152 votes

Well, actually, Vi clears are pretty good, and I would argue her passive counts as a form of sustain.

Not that it's completely unnecessary to build Trailblazer early, but you've got to at least swap it out before it hits late-game.

Lauricella3Jul 17, 20151 votes

well when she doesn't need the slow and the other 2 are meh, of course im gonna go purple smite.

she has 2 gapclosers and her gankee should be providing the slows.

Tails DollJul 17, 20151 votes

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well when she doesn't need the slow and the other 2 are meh, of course im gonna go purple smite.

she has 2 gapclosers and her gankee should be providing the slows.

She "doesnt need" yes, she has alot of CC. But why not ad more to that? The more, the better.

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Her clears are pretty poor compared to other junglers, and she has no sustain. She makes up for it however with her insanely strong ganks.

Maybe take her to the jungle before saying anything. Her clears are fine, actually they are good enough to not need the AoE dmg rangers gives.

Well, actually, Vi clears are pretty good, and I would argue her passive counts as a form of sustain.

Not that it's completely unnecessary to build Trailblazer early, but you've got to at least swap it out before it hits late-game.

Yes her shield is her sustain, she can tank most dmg from it, and once you get an item or two, jungle camps will basically do nothing to her. Meaning rangers it's only "useful"on her between first and second back. After that it's even more useless cuz she wont need the sustain. And I'll rather have something to help me gank than some small sustain help that i can easily cover up with 1 or 2 pots.