What if Quinn could switch in and out of Valor form at will...

ABlueQuaker·Sep 23, 2015·3 votes·701 views

...and her Skystrike had an independent cooldown?

Even if Tag Team still had a maximum duration. (Maybe 10 seconds with a 30/20/10 second cooldown based off rank?)

6 Comments

Norr1NSep 23, 20152 votes

Would be cool, but would require some means of gating the bonus effects. If only someone, somewhere, perhaps from a long since forgotten time, could help us with this task (╯◕_◕)╯.

Tl;dr - Basically I took all the bonus effects off the ultimate, so switching back and forth was seamless and gave no bonus effects thus dropping the cooldown to ~6-3s. Threw in a counter when playing as Quinn, whilst Valor "rested", which charged up stacks. On switching, consume ALL stacks, give bonus effect if stacks met bonus effect threshold i.e. gain movement speed as Valor if rested enough, gain Skystrike if switching to Valor when having MAX stacks. Charge rate of counter to max stacks would imitate current cooldown of Skystrike, so there would be no difference, you'd basically choose to either switch to Valor for a brief movement speed bonus in exchange for an even longer cooldown (since you'd have reset the counter), or let Valor rest longer so when you switch Valor can travel as fast as her current ult and be capable of performing Skystrike. Bam. Yw. xP

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Also, it wouldn't be as bad as most people make out tbh, comparing them to Nid/Elise who don't share cooldowns or even use mana in one form whilst also have unique abilities which would typically generate such a problem. Nah, it's manageable if done right. People generally think about the worst case scenario, you gotta build up a case rather than just drop it like a bomb, although you will still get people who take a glance at the title, barely understood what was proposed and then insta-neg lol.

LaserDeathBladeSep 23, 20151 votes

Balance issues aside, it'd also be an awkward implementation because when your Skystrike CD comes up, are you just gunna be stuck in 1 form because you don't want to waste Skystrike?

SmefanyeSep 23, 20151 votes

Plus with how much trouble Riot's had with balancing champions with two forms (Jayce, Elise, Nidalee) I feel like that could just cause more problems than it solves

AbyssphereSep 23, 20151 votes

Agreed, dunno why she doesn't work like every other transform champion.

AbyssphereSep 23, 20151 votes

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Agreed, dunno why she doesn't work like every other transform champion.

Everyone I know has been talking about how much they want Quinn to be an early pressure transform champion who falls off late, it'd be very fun and unique and much more balanced.