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Can we please disable Talon until he's hotfixed?

Yosuke Apperu·11/16/2016, 11:54:12 PM·2 votes·1,000 views

Talon is a blast to play don't get me wrong.. but I feel as though the assassin rework did the opposite of what riot intended, which was making assassins healthier to play AND to play against. When it comes to talon the opposite is true, he's frustrating to play against not only because of his wall hopping escapes, but also because of his damage being ridiculously high. This is coming from someone with 150k mastery on pre assassin rework talon. The three mark thing is fine but has 200% bonus ad scaling, that's insane. In fact every one of his damaging abilities have at least a 100% bonus AD scaling.

Then we go to the itemization the one that I have a really big problem with at the moment is edge of night. They say they're offering some defensive options for assassin and taking away potential ad as a trade off.. but the item still gives 60AD! It doesn't feel as though champions picking this up are trading off anything at all. What's everyone's thoughts on this?

24 Comments

GULAG 4 U11/16/2016, 11:56:57 PM3 votes

His damage is much easier to play around and avoid now though.

Grabagraba11/16/2016, 11:59:50 PM1 votes

I would say we should build a wall! And make him pay for it!

ShinkoMinori11/16/2016, 11:56:55 PM1 votes

They should disable pre-season entirely.

Kaioko11/17/2016, 12:06:17 AM1 votes

Not arguing one way or another here but I find it hilarious that I was reading a thread a few minutes ago that talked about how the assassins are so weak allowing ADCs to become OP and of course RIOT only loves their ADCs so they're going to nerf everything to the ground except for them.

Goes to show opinions are all over the place. I will argue with ONE assassin that I believe needs to be toned down and that's Rengar. Nerf his freaking scalings man especially on the passive.

forist11/17/2016, 1:28:27 AM1 votes

Under-powered, 43% win-rate. Very weak to champs who are ranged and can kite him, which is most meta mid-laners. Speaking from experience, not just statistics, he seems much weaker than before, and requires much more skill to play correctly. Against people smart enough to play away from any potential walls, he has only 3 abilities. Does not need nerfs or a hotfix.

WarlockLaw11/17/2016, 11:21:25 PM1 votes

I've found the opposite to be true. His damage is fairly unreliable due to the long delay on his W and the somewhat short duration of his Ult. In my experience it's a lot harder to actually delete somebody, especially when their team can shoot off AoE peel spells as you ult. Based on the games I've played, Kat seems like the only broken one from this update, with a few other strong and the rest side-graded or weak.

Ark Sorcerer11/17/2016, 12:02:37 AM1 votes

Talon scaling I did not know about but I have seen him the least of the rework assassins. From the Kats I have played with/against said this might as well be a buff because the combos are the exact same except she is now gets to activate her spinning blades twice. LeBlanc passive needs to go otherwise she is... annoying as always. Rengar... Sigh. Welcome back, release Rengar. You have comeback even more powerful huh? Minor scale rework assassins: Fizz-- Even more annoying and much more powerful. Seems as though nothing was a nerf and everything was to make him stronger. Especially now that his wave clearing is easier. Kha'Zik-- Someone please, please, get rid of him. I seem to have bad Kha players on my team yet face against Gods on the enemy team. Invisibility (ult I do believe) is annoying. Akali-- Sigh. Will someone scrap this champion? Please. Her burst, her damage, her ult, her survivability, her everything is annoying. Easily a failure.

That is all I have to say. For things like Zed: I see no difference. None. As for Shaco... seen him once. Can't really judge base on that.