Senna

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has soooo much range that I'm not even safe under tower.

Senna was a mistake tbh. Needs to be removed.

Senna can't outrange towers without a ludicrous amount of stacks and a RFC. She can poke you with her Q, but she needs 40 stacks to even be on-par with Caitlyn's range.

If you're playing against a champion with long range, but poor waveclear, try not to get shoved under tower. Shove back and freeze the wave so they're stuck on your side of the map for a long time.

Dodge her E W and hard engage = she's dead.

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i told myself I would never play Senna because she truly is an unfair design kit-wise... but you know the saying "if you can't beat em', join em'"? Well, yeah.

So I played her and my very first game I got the easiest double kill of my life (edit: pre 6 off of just autoattacks, Q, flash, ignite). I'm a Zyra OTP primarily and to get a double kill I have to work my ass off HARD especially pre-6. Senna though... she outranges most champs in botlane with her aa, Her harass is insane. Senna already starts stacking on more range + stats in no time as a support with several souls dropping per wave, 1 at leash for jg, 1 from scuttle, 2 from drake, off of aa after her Q on enemy champs, etc.

I'm not saying I'm some god player or anything. I do mess up in games but it is rare for me to be the sore spot on my team as Senna. Like I probably should have dodged if I was countered so hard in champ select but my philosophy is that practice is everything so I go through to game anyway. If I lose a match it's usually because my jg/other lanes were outclassed horribly, our botlane is facing an offmeta cheese strat that we aren't very sure how to deal with, or we were a bunch of randoms against a 3-4 man smurf premade. (lv 27 talon with 27 kills absolutely stomping our midlaner, etc).

With ultimate hunter my ult is almost always up when I need it. a global ult with massive impact in an instant. With athene's my healing and shielding is Nami levels of good but everyone in my E, ult, or Q benefit from it instead of Nami having a single target heal that can bounce 2 (3 times if you're positioned like a dumbass). lol.. Plus I get to finally abuse the fuck out of Umbral Glaive while zooming around in my E oneshotting every single ward on a whole quarter of the map's jg + river. that ward damage works even when UG is on blackout cooldown too so a sweeper is way more effective as well since none of the active ward-vision duration is wasted.

then we get into the + E + Q + ULT effecting literally everyone on your team at once (Q being more difficult as it is very narrow but with long range). Not just one ability but up to 3 chances to apply these item effects. With E people can also walk out and come back in to reapply if you have aery. yikes... Senna's E, W, and Ult alone outclass every single thing Sona as a whole champion stands for pretty much. Sona's R isn't even a saving grace imo because the range is so short. I'd say the same for Soraka too in comparison to Senna.

Senna doesn't even need to build AD items because of her passive scalings. So yes, she gets to enjoy the best of both worlds at only half effort. It's pretty fucked how absurd these new champions are.

edit: basically senna outclasses: and several adcs themselves, plus many other mage supports such as Swain in an equal skill level matchup from my experience playing as and against her since her release. There's no reason why a champion with all this utility should have so much range and passive scalings. It makes Nami and Sona look like a bad joke