You Know Mid Sucks When.....
the best Mage in both solo queue and the lcs is a champion with a 2 second silence and a 3 second suppression.
the best Mage in both solo queue and the lcs is a champion with a 2 second silence and a 3 second suppression.
But boards thinks zed and yasuo are the problem. Did they even get picked once?
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Welcome to Heimerlane, where we play Farmville for 30 minutes because there is no kill pressure on either side
Welcome to Heimerlane, where we play Farmville for 30 minutes because there is no kill pressure on either side
donger has kill pressure now
Are you saying I'm the only person who rushes void staff flashes places 3 turrets while throwing a stun nade, followed up by w (And Ult if it's available)
You probably are because rushing Void Staff is a terrible idea no matter the situation and Haunting Guise will do way better job at what you are trying to accomplish and especially on Heimer.
Dat wuz jok but oki
THIS IS GAMEPLAY
NO JOKES ALLOWED
HELLO POLICE???
;-;
Unless you're
, since his turrets proc your E passive :P
This is why I pick
, it's instant joy for me, instant suffering for the Heimer.
Gotta say after all my bumps with heimer interaction with him has gotten even harder than before as a melee...
Hes not that hard to play aginst just pick something that can match the wave clear and dont dive. I just take ori or syndra and farm. Then when i teamfight i have much more presenxe bexause my ult will destry anything that isnt a 3 or 4 item tank. Heck on syndra you can just grab his dongers and throw them away.
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But boards thinks zed and yasuo are the problem. Did they even get picked once?
Huni picked Yasuo top
Few people have picked yasuo mid though outside of meaningless games with zero implications, which is where all the posts bitching about him come from. The sad thing about this is that those same people refuse to adapt their champion pools (whether it be picking things like naut mid or mordy) and will continue to do the same posts until the only viable pick is AP janna mid, in which case they'll complain that midlane is stale and needs more variety.
Yeah the Finals at Worlds sure is a 'meaningless games with zero implications'
Didn't tune into the finals, but would've heard if either crown or faker took it.
......He literally told you. Huni picked it top game 2 of the finals
In which case I refer to my original post, in which I literally said in the first line that I rarely see him picked MID. Not top, MID. Yasuo top is more common and is a known skill matchup into gnar, so that is viable.
And look where that got him. It was an awful pick, just like they took Gragas every damn game as well.
How'd that work out for him? Lololol.
RIP in peace SKT.
I don't care about either, but unhealthy design =/= strong. A champion can have a bad design without being overpowered and vice versa.
Yasuo and zed can be outplayed easily
I agree about Zed (maybe not easily, but it is there), Yasuo can be counterpicked but counterplay is pretty non-existent vs good players. I believe Riot has already confirmed that a Yasuo rework is at least being discussed because of this.
Thank gods. The problem with Yas isn't his op-ness or lack thereof (I've seen Yasuo's both shit on everyone and get shit on), the problem is that he's just extremely un-fun to play against in a way that no other champion I can think of is. Even on the couple of occasions where I got to tear apart a bad Yas, it was still a boring, annoying chore.
Here's what the pregame thoughts are like:
: Okay, stay behind my minion wave
: Mind the skillshot, try not to stay in one place straight across from her.
: That ice thing is slow as hell, just move out of the way
: Can move faster than you think, watch your distance. don't stand on the damn knife
: Step on the plants when she's not close
....
: Uggggghhhhh. I hope this guy isn't in my lane.
Ye. They want to rework him because he is obscenely weak, but still such an anti-fun and highly banned champ.
Yasuo and zed can be outplayed easily
Yasuo and Azir are the best champions in this game, They have no counterplay when played well
If that was the case, why isn't yasuo constantly picked at every worlds?
because yasuo is a dueler. Lcs is all about team play. Thats also why they don't pick jax at worlds either
So he has a weakness? So he's not the best champion in the game?
I think what he means is Yasuo has no counterplay when played perfectly in Solo Queue.
You play any champion perfectly and they have no counterplay. Counterplay involves outplaying the opponent, which usually involves making a mistake.
If you want to talk about countering a good Yasuo, then there are a lot of options. Despite his high mobility, Yasuo has basically no escape. Combine that with his low defensive stats and aggressive playstyles and you get a champion who is super susceptible to ganks. Sure he can outplay but just land a CC on him and he's dead.
He's a champion who relies a lot on his windwall and whatnot for his defensive power. You can get it down and then you can trade more freely with him. It's on a 20+ second cd.
Outside of lane, focus him in a teamfight and he's dead, simple as that. Countering yas splitpush is the same as countering Trynd split push except with Yas he can't just spin away from everything making him even easier to catch and kill.
I don't care about either, but unhealthy design =/= strong. A champion can have a bad design without being overpowered and vice versa.
and
have absolutely NO idea what your are talking about
/sarcasm..
yasuo got picked by SKT
3 second targeted supression.
The scary part is Balance team being fine with this.
Idk, botlane being more important that mid is just somehow.....disgusting. And this damn balance philosophy even fucked up the Worlds.
The scary part is Balance team being fine with this.
Idk, botlane being more important that mid is just somehow.....disgusting. And this damn balance philosophy even fucked up the Worlds.
2 champs bot. 1 champ mid. Deal with it.
No thank you, I'd rather have it fixed.
i mean you can count to 2 that's something atleast. What you can't do seems to be understanding of the game. 2 champs=more important than 1 champ is simply not how a moba works. Different classes with different powercurves. ADCs are botlane because they are or SHOULD not be able to solo lane. Supports went their because they can afford having no gold income. Generally speaking they are more like 1 1/2 champs than actual 2 champs. Or even one champ since supports pretty much make adcs an actual for the first 25 mins. Riot destroyed this and now it's not 2champs bot deal with it but 5 champs bot and the rest supports. And a lot of you can't seem to understand how much riot damaged this game by doing this. Completely throwing balance out of the window to jerk off to their botlane overlords. Historically nerfing and reworking dozens of champs for the same reasons adcs are complaint about and instead they get buffed to a point where it isn't even funny anymore.
i mean you can count to 2 that's something atleast. What you can't do seems to be understanding of the game. 2 champs=more important than 1 champ is simply not how a moba works. Different classes with different powercurves. ADCs are botlane because they are or SHOULD not be able to solo lane. Supports went their because they can afford having no gold income. Generally speaking they are more like 1 1/2 champs than actual 2 champs. Or even one champ since supports pretty much make adcs an actual for the first 25 mins. Riot destroyed this and now it's not 2champs bot deal with it but 5 champs bot and the rest supports. And a lot of you can't seem to understand how much riot damaged this game by doing this. Completely throwing balance out of the window to jerk off to their botlane overlords. Historically nerfing and reworking dozens of champs for the same reasons adcs are complaint about and instead they get buffed to a point where it isn't even funny anymore.
It absolutely is how a moba works if you want player satisfaction. League had situations in the past when a snowballed solo laner could annihilate an entire team that had virtually no interaction with him up to that point. Contrary to bot lane meme spammers, that state of the game is terrible.
clearly the average mid lane champion has just become a higher damage version of the support role.
is also better at worlds than stronger assassins
because his ult basically = 5 second cc chain by itself hehe
really all we need to fix the botlane meta is to make an AP item that applies a targeted 5s disarm, being a new CC type that prevents anyone affected by it from auto attacking.
Now suddenly ADs have a counter.
that just sounds like a blind to me
A champ with an AOE silence and a single target targeted suppression doesn't seem that bad. Why is mid lane bad because Malz is good?
Best mid is taliyah
Most of korean chall midlaners 70%-80% reached challenger by playing taliyah
But then again Taliyah has insane waveclear and can be an AD carry slave due to how often she can roam
But yeah malzahar has consistently been high up
I did make threads saying he has no hard counters a while back
Legit no losing mathups .. unless he is up against another champion which basicly has no losing matchups to
When I complain about Malz I'm told "just get a QSS" as if his E and Voidlings don't exist.
Malzahar? I didnt realise he became meta again.
3 seconds? When did he get buffed?
On another note, I remember all the downvotes for the threads by old Malz mains saying the semi-revert wasn't good enough lol