Can we nerf Thresh please?

Cloud273··5 votes·2,976 views

Ever since he was released there's NEVER been a time when his playrate wasn't high. If you look on champion.gg he's literally ALWAYS in the top 3 for most played champs. It's not even a debate at this point. Thresh has literally been the most overcentralizing bot lane champ ever since he was released. If you look at his winrate he may seem healthy since he's at about 50% right now, but it makes sense since a high playrate often tends to drag down winrate. I seriously don't understand why Tahm is being nerfed when Thresh wins more and gets played more than 10x more often. Thresh has bar none the most loaded kit in this game. He has the BEST engage in this game and you can't even deny it. There isn't a single champ in this game who can cc someone from further away than he can (actually MAYBE Xerath can but other than that I don't think there's anyone else). The range on his 'q' is like 1100 or something crazy like that (the range on Blitzcrank's grab is 900 for comparison), and the cc lasts a LONG time. And after the 'q' ends he gets even more cc since he can immediately flay and ult you. And he also offers some of the best safety in the game since his healing offers a shield and immediately pulls you to safety (and he can also heal you with relic shield too). And in the late game he gets to be a tank (yes, we have a RANGED champion who is supposed to be squishy but instead becomes a tank) for some stupid reason. Thresh just has WAY too much in his kit. Please gut this champ so we can actually have some diversity in bot for once (and don't tell me we have diversity because he's played MORE than twice as much as any other support).

8 Comments

ORB1TS5 votes

nerf riven or vayne first please

Kazekiba3 votes

Overloaded "Master of all trades" kit, its not about his numbers.

He's a Certainly T champion, after all.

Hyper5pace1 votes

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Overloaded "Master of all trades" kit, its not about his numbers.

He's a Certainly T champion, after all.

So no damage whatsoever and teammate reliance is "Master of all trades". He may seem strong with amazing cc and utility but if the teammates are not on par with him he is a sitting duck. It's a bit like braum in that sense as they are useless if not on the same page as their team as they do 0 damage.

AhhShucks5 votes

No damage isn't even close to true. He gets free damage scaling as well as free armor scaling with souls collected. He does more damage than any non mage support you run into.

Sure he isn't blowing things up, but compared to any of the other utility supports his damage is huge.

Kazekiba2 votes

Clearly you've never built item 3147 item 3087 item 3031 item 3153 item 3020 item 3094 Thresh.

His kit has a lot of damage, you just typically build Tank and have a low gold income. Q has a 50% AP ratio, autos ramp up to 80+200% AD mid-game and potentially higher, The Box does 550 + 100% AP (and this, 75% of souls gathered.) and his Cooldowns are pretty low.

Not impossible to make a item 3285 item 3157 item 3089 item 3020 item 3165 item 3102 build work either and get massive Q and R damage. In fact, AP thresh used to work well enough that Riot changed his W scaling to be purely on Souls rather than AP even though its functionally the same. (But then, AP Support Caitlyn was a thing before CertainlyT got ahold of her, too.)

Hyper5pace2 votes

Sona and nami are running rampant in the support role atm so I would rather not nerf one of their best counters when shit like taric sona is in the game. Thresh is a pain in the ass sometimes but he is so teammate reliant so if you nerf him he will be useless.

Deathraven131 votes

Time to buff it BOOOOIIIIIIISSSSS ! [sg-kiko]

kuzzy471 votes

His q colldown is up before you get out of previous q.

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