Tip: don't give "bad" champions in nemesis draft, give bad comps

TotalJerk·Aug 20, 2016·110 votes·7,374 views

Title. It's funny seeing people who think they screwed us by giving us Yorick when we gave them 5 squishies that can't kite well.

119 Comments

KeepeAug 20, 201639 votes

My most... INTERESTING experience yet. I was given Karthus. What does one of our team mates give them after that?

Soraka.

TFBaamAug 20, 20162 votes

LOL

LichKing234Aug 21, 20162 votes

when ever i get karthus and the enemy has raka i make sure raka is dead before i ult.

when im raka vs a karthus i save my ult to when i see him using his ult then i make ton of R jokes

Auz the RipperAug 20, 201620 votes

I love when people give me urgot. It's just like https://media.giphy.com/media/FjeGBljESVAzu/giphy.gif

Toplane FencerAug 20, 20161 votes

Eh so how do you play that champion? I just got destroyed by Singed and went 1/8 in that game. Did fine until like level 7 but then I just didn't deal enough damage to be a threat to singed and he could walk up to me with his slow field.

Duke AnaxAug 20, 20163 votes

I like to play him like this: Deathfire Touch item 3042 item 3071 item 3025 item 3147 item 3139 item 3053

Wittle them down long range with EQQQ, then blow them up short range while being tanky enough to survive your own engage.

Edit: fixed deathfire

RoodToobAug 21, 20164 votes

Death fire touch? Grasp was the item

Toplane FencerAug 21, 20162 votes

Okay, thanks!

RoodToobAug 21, 20164 votes

People give all the unpopular champs. They aren't necessarily bad though

I get Yorick all the time. I smash lane, people wonder why because "Yorick sux tho"

RavenMagusAug 20, 201618 votes

They keep giving me Aurelian Sol to play.

So I just keep playing him.

I'm perfectly okay with it.

SolitairAug 20, 20163 votes

Aurelion Sol? Naw, horrible champ. Trash champ. Lose every game! (pls I don't want him nerfed again).

manliestdinoAug 20, 20162 votes

Asol is just hard to play, so there's a good chance that there is a team where no one knows how to play him.

MelledoneusAug 20, 201612 votes

Then you get the masochists who give the enemy Shaco.

God, that was NOT fun.

RocketRelmAug 21, 20164 votes

To be fair, shaco is kind of a good champion to give. 95% of the time the enemy has no idea how to shaco, and shaco becomes worthless 30 minutes in even if he knows what he's doing 'regardless'.

MelledoneusAug 21, 20164 votes

Every time they give Shaco we go up against a Shaco main.

10TicklerAug 21, 20166 votes

It's Vayne Syndrome.

Vayne Riven Shaco Kassadin On your team are trashlords from Donkeyshit V ranked

On the enemy team? Master-tier, 7th level mastery gods from Olympus itself, come to shove themselves up your arse

Papa SlothyAug 20, 201610 votes

someone gave them morde and rammus, we were all auto champs with bad kiting

WutsKrakenAug 20, 20169 votes

Enemy gives me Urgot Enemy also gives a teammate Janna Nobody on team but me apparently plays Urgot but someone is a Janna main lolnexus reveals both teams are composed of Bronze and Silver except me Urgot item 3042 item 3158 item 3142 item 3071 item 3110 item 3156 Urgot 14/2/6 MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Enemy: Holy shit, wtf is that damage Urgot You gave me Urgot and another one of us Janna. Urgot is not an awful champ and Janna shield with Urgot is op

Hemulen MagiAug 20, 201612 votes

They gave me Yorick , which is my 200k mastery tier-7 main. My team's Kindred adc went 1/11 in laning and kept calling for ff@20. But meanwhile up in top lane, I was surviving against the enemy Rumble Swain 1 vs 2 (they had a double top). We gave the enemy team a full AP comp, so I built item 3111 item 3042 item 3156 item 3065 item 3077 item 1057 and became unkillable. After laning, I won a couple 1 v 5 skirmishes where my clone and I killed several of them before they could peel me off.

I ended up winning with zero deaths, highest damage dealt, most healing, most damage tanked, and most turrets/inhibitors taken.

I bet the enemy regretted giving me that Yorick "troll pick".

LichKing234Aug 21, 20163 votes

its funny cause people always think unpopular champs are bad but then they get face rolled like wtf like one time when nemise draft was first introduced the enemy gave me aatrox and me being aatrox main i preceded to curb stomp them and it was so much fun

stabby himikoAug 20, 20169 votes

my team : 4 AP champs enemy team : some squishlords but with high dps last guy on my team: gives galio me: . edit: someone dodged

Mysticman89Aug 21, 20167 votes

Being a 750k+ Janna main (who also has an account that hard mains her in non-support roles too), it's very convenient that people seem to think she's weak/bad, or at least when I can get my hands on her.

It's somewhat inconvenient that people keep banning her, and I had one teammate that refused to trade her to me since I was going to adc as her (as janna was the only ranged champ on our comp) since playing champions in an off-meta manner is trolling. Meanwhile when I did get adc janna, I ended up being a god with 28 kills. Silly people and their blind obedience to the meta...

Gary B EnkelisAug 21, 20163 votes

Key to this mode is thinking outside the box, yes. ARAM is similar. AD Janna gets the job done if needed.

YoungFarmerAug 20, 20166 votes

I always find it good to give them weak ap champions, with not tanks.

Hemulen MagiAug 20, 20164 votes

The easiest way to win is to give the enemy 5 ap burst champs with little hybrid/tank/utility potential, then just have everyone build a couple MR items. You might think champs like Katarina and Leblanc are strong, but they offer practically nothing against a team stacking items like item 3065 item 3083 item 3102 item 3156 item 3060 item 3190 item 3001 . If they can't burst you, they have nothing to fall back on.

Also, it's pretty common that the enemy team will just give you Galio , which makes AP burst comps even easier to stomp.

Another thing that's important in Nemesis draft is to never, never, never give the enemy an even somewhat viable adc champ. Even Janna adc is going to make their comp way better.

AbyssphereAug 20, 20162 votes

ADCs are really weak in nemesis draft. Most of them have sub-50% win rates and people like Cait have like 42% win rates. ADCs are great to give in nemesis draft, you just need to make sure you don't give the enemy team any way of supporting that ADC. That's why 5 ADC comps are so easy to beat in this, none of them can do anything to help each other.

Hemulen MagiAug 20, 20162 votes

A 5 adc comp may be bad, but if they have any 4 non-adcs and you give them an adc to go with it, you have made the enemy comp 100% better.

Also, if you gave them a 5 ADC comp like Ashe Graves Corki Draven Lucian , a clever team will make a pretty meta team with Lucian a top laner skirmisher, Graves a jungler bruiser, Ashe a support, Corki a mixed damage mid, and use Draven as the crit-scaling built bot ADC. Armor pen itemization also scale up much stronger than magic pen items against tanky teams.

Gary B EnkelisAug 21, 20162 votes

Until they think outside the box and build tank / AD / support. Yeah I see you mentioned Janna at the end, but even Leblanc could ADC with her ranged auto.... It would be interesting.

DisulfiramAug 21, 20162 votes

Leblanc : ranged attack, up to 4 short-CD dashes, 1 (or 2) delayed root(s)... I actually think she might be a very good ADC whenever all this self-peel would be more meaningful than autoattack steroids.

meluvulongtime3Aug 20, 20164 votes

First game I played they gave me a fiddlesticks. Went 20/0/10 in the jungle.

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Meep ManAug 20, 20163 votes

Garen Mordekaiser Darius Nasus Illaoi

Oh no, maybe I'll just... walk away.

Unstoppable MonkAug 20, 20166 votes

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Oh no, maybe I'll just... walk away.

You seriously put Nasus in there with that comp?

Pale PirateAug 20, 20162 votes

He's just going to walk away ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

GULAG 4 UAug 20, 20165 votes

And then they give you squishy melee champions

Rip

MistroTTCAug 20, 20163 votes

Ever give them all ap champs and build 3 banners of commands, I main singed and even I think that was a bit to cruel.

Champion SkinAug 21, 20162 votes

Well if they are ranged they can still function with an AD build Though AD champions with no/bad AP ratios are pretty bad with AP (though there are item 3100 item 3285 item 3115 which kind of gives AP some use)

JafarThePandaAug 20, 20162 votes

I report people after who give the team good champions. It's lost me too many games. I also get people who DON'T trade and can't play a champ I know how to play. I report them too. It's the only way they'll get a clue that they should actually you know, be a team player, give someone the good champ who's good, and get over being carried.

Anivia good champ (if your comp can't kill anivia instantly, DON'T GIVE THEM ANIVIA) Gragas good champ (yeah someone thought gragas was bad - guess who lost - my team) Ryze good champ (lost because someone thought ryze was bad when they're wood 7) Thresh good champ (again, lost because people gave them thresh) TahmKench good champ (unkillable late game) Sona good champ (it's sona) Braum good champ (it's braum) Leona good champ (self explanatory) Nami fucking hate this champ but she does too much damage against comps in this mode

the only bad champs in this really are Janna and Zilean because a zilean ult goes to waste when all their squishies get wrecked again after being revived, and janna.. is just janna.

DroogzyAug 20, 201669 votes

You must be fun to play with.

It's a light hearted game mode, not meant to be taken seriously, why in the world is it justifiable to try reporting people for doing something that you PERSONALLY didn't like? As in, its not against the rules.

Irelia BotAug 20, 201646 votes

Some people think they are getting into the LCS playing these rotation game modes.

Let them dream.

MelledoneusAug 20, 201616 votes

It's that champion select music. Makes everything so tense and epic, makes you feel like you're in the final battle of an anime.

crippler38Aug 21, 20163 votes

wish I could turn that crap down tbh

also if this game were an anime people wouldn't call you an idiot for going in to avenge your team alone and we'd get power boosts for dead teammates.

xNykyrian Aug 21, 20162 votes

The accuracy XD

TotalJerkAug 20, 201614 votes

On top of that all of their advice was fucking terrible, tbh.

Toplane FencerAug 20, 20162 votes

Username checks out. Obvious troll here guys.

Gosh DarnAug 20, 201628 votes

Janna has been one of the highest winrate supports for years and Zilean is sleeper OP right now. You're insane and biased for no reason.

IS3E531E3F964391Aug 20, 20165 votes

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Janna has been one of the highest winrate supports for years and Zilean is sleeper OP right now. You're insane and biased for no reason.

dat 36(33) second cd zilean ult with 40(45)%CDR, I'm telling ya if anything will get nerfed it's his ridiculously low ult CD

Duke AnaxAug 20, 20165 votes

When Rewind still affected it, it used to be even lower, 27 at 40% I think.

caIicko kittyAug 21, 20162 votes

My team last game pick Soraka for the other team. Says, " Just kill her and she's not a problem. She is so bad right now." We lost the game and the Soraka had over 50k in healing.

Yaśuo MainAug 21, 20162 votes

We got a free win in the champ picking, the enemy team gave us all champs that were very VERY strong if built full AP.

Until, the Amumu we had gave them Kog...

Amumu and some other guy fed the kog, so only me and Amumu could stop him. We lost game cuz he carried super hard. 10 minutes before game ends Amumu goes "I might of made a bad pick for them guys..."

notice me Sin piAug 21, 20162 votes

i try to tell my teammates to coordinate our choices into making the enemy team pure AD or pure AP or all-melee-with-no-gap-closer but sometimes my team refuses to listen T.T