tryndamere rewards the most passive unfun playstyle ever

Kiokami·Nov 25, 2016·176 votes·8,361 views

he's not op, he's not broken

but he's incredibly fucking stupid and annyoing.

why does such a badass character on paper have to have one of the most cowardly, un-intuitive playstyles in the game?

ill do you two scenarios for tryndamere

is tryndamere losing lane hard? lol + lv 6, and he no longer loses unless there's some serious outplaying going on. worst case for him is he has to e away and pop ult. also prepare for him to NEVER leave lane because he literally doesn't have to unless he wants to spend gold.

in tryndamere winning lane hard? lol and then he does one of two things. roams and murders everything because he has a sneaky 75% crit chance, or you guessed it, sit in top and split push all day with zero risk until he or his team ends the game.

again, i don't think tryndamere is op. i just think its bullshit that he literally can splitpush all day with almost 0 consequences even when he gets stomped in lane.

when is he up for a rework, meddler? make him an actual champion who requires some thought. not "oh i got 3 aa's in lane off first i win all trade"

or "i just got shit stomped in lane, better take 3 fucking towers and then r+e away"

why is a BESERKER WHO DOESN'T AFRAID OF ANYTHING HAVE A PLAYSTYLE SO DEEPLY ROOTED IN RUNNING AWAY LIKE HE DOES AFRAID OF EVERYTHING

201 Comments

GULAG 4 UNov 25, 201671 votes

He is broken lol, he is a walking RNG machine

LA LostyNov 26, 201616 votes

The triple crit+ignite at lvl 2 still haunts me. 3 fkin crits in a row with half a fury bar.

rtbf225618241Nov 26, 20161 votes

I had a triple crit at lvl 1 against a Riven. Holy fck if i had ignite she would have been toast.

LA LostyNov 26, 20169 votes

Apply butter to burned area.

RavenMagusNov 26, 201634 votes

Is it worse than item 3512 item 3060 Heimerdinger who sits at his tower and watches the game play itself?

RequiemsfireNov 26, 20163 votes

Heimerdinger loses out on damage with that build though,

RavenMagusNov 26, 20164 votes

He does. he does absolutely no damage himself at all. He does nothing but push.

It's effective at pushing, but it's incredibly boring.

DaxterrNov 26, 20167 votes

I disagree, it's not boring. Either you win by trolling the whole game or you start losing and your whole team flames you.

IceKingChernobogNov 26, 20162 votes

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Is it worse than who sits at his tower and watches the game play itself?

Especially when they go top lane, it makes me want to rip my hair out. Heimer is probably the only champ i can say is utterly obnoxious and fustrating to play against. Dull and boring to play as. I will never believe any heimer main that will say heim is a fun champ to play. No, No he's not and you know it.

ShaolinToiletNov 26, 20161 votes

I like playing vs heimer.

IceKingChernobogNov 26, 201610 votes

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I like playing vs heimer.

Ok masochist.

SpoofghoulNov 26, 201624 votes

Ah but have you tried proxy sion yet

just as obnoxious

just gotta get them death timer reduction quints a zzrot portal some AD(read Ravenous Hydra) and AtkSP and your set oh and dont forget teleport ghost

just play lane like usual until you are getting that tiamat and atkSP boots and keep running into their turrets domlishing all minions on your way hurting turret with ult then attacking it then dying then use passive to chunk it down even harder. Just make sure you build up a little bit of a wave if possible or at least make sure there is minions neabry to drop the backdoor armor

after dying respawn tp back and repeat then gost and repeat then ult again and repeat then tp again and repeat and so on

Due to death timer starting when your passive kicks in you can use it to keep pushing/killing turret meaning while your still running about the already trimmed down death timer ticks away leaving you with almost no downtime, and often with no downtime at all

Hence why ravenous hydra is important it allows for aoe lifesteal with passive which gives 100% lifesteal which allows you to keep pushing waves and stay alive till you respawn

And whilst doing this your deaths will make you progressively less worth to deal with whilst your itemgains from being fed as fuck from farming and your free hp on W will make you progressively harder to stop as well.

It's one of the most obnoxious things you will encounter i can promise you that

Papa SlothyNov 26, 20165 votes

you don't buy ravenous on proxy singed

5000000000000000Nov 26, 201648 votes

it says proxy Sion

Papa SlothyNov 26, 201648 votes

wait i'm retarded

Votable JesterNov 26, 201612 votes

All I saw was proxy Si- and I assumed the rest xD

woobeeNov 26, 201614 votes

More like obNOXUS AMIRITE

EedatNov 25, 201622 votes

Proxy Singed is worse imo. Completely ignore interaction with the enemy team

UnboundCreatorNov 26, 20165 votes

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Proxy is worse imo. Completely ignore interaction with the enemy team

i fucking love proxy singed singed420 is dad

AninLegions777Nov 26, 20162 votes

Actually proxy singed has one major weakness. If your team doesn't react quick enough, you'll find yourself executing/dying for nothing a lot of times and God forbid the toplaner get a Hydra. Your proxy won't matter cos your minions will never reach their towers.

EedatNov 26, 20162 votes

Wasnt debating the effectiveness. I was referring to the zero interaction of the playstyle. Playing top vs proxy Singed is so frustrating and boring

no mechanics apeNov 26, 20166 votes

Proxy Singed main here, would be unfair to start without mentioning bias-

I actually think Proxy Singed WAS both broken and annoying at one point (Season 3 Suicide Singed), but now, it's just irritating to play against.

From experience, though, proxying is pretty situational and requires MUCH greater awareness and knowledge of the game in general than playing most other champions in the top lane.

Singed in general isn't a strong champion, he won't ever see serious competitive play, and most meta matchups make me want to rip my hair out, but I'll be damned if he isn't fun to play.

Billy VoHagenNov 25, 201613 votes

If a Tryndamere is losing lane, take advantage of it so he can't easily get an IE and shiv.

Pr0MeisterNov 26, 20168 votes

The only problem I see is the fact that for some reason he can Ulti during CC which makes no sense at all. How can you say CC counters him when I can do a full Leona rotation on him and he will STILL R and beyblade away.

Hell, a 5/0 Lux will prolly lose a 1v1 against a 0/5 Tryn because for all the dmg she does, 5 secs are an ETERNITY in games like LoL.

Garlic ButterNov 26, 20161 votes

He can't ult during suppression(if silenced at the same time) or specifically Garen'S silence for some reason. There is also a lengthy wind up time on the cast of his ult so you have a solid 0.75 second window to kill him before his ulti activates. Also true damage. Since we have 15-30 large or %max hp true damage champs now.

That spin is annoying on TT if you are t one of the 67 dash spam champs.

Automated RivenNov 27, 20163 votes

true damage does not go through trynd alt. Stop saying this.

SohleksNov 25, 20167 votes

It's 90% crit with 2 items : D more you know~

Four whacks dead squishy

RyuyahNov 26, 20165 votes

Two whacks

ftfy

AcidTheWarlockNov 25, 20167 votes

WHO DOESN'T AFRAID OF ANYTHING HAVE A PLAYSTYLE SO DEEPLY ROOTED IN RUNNING AWAY LIKE HE DOES AFRAID OF EVERYTHING

This is literally the funniest sentence I've heard all day, wait, scratch that, all WEEK.

You sir need to post more in M&G.

Also this is quality post. The only other character I hate more in terms of uninteractivity (that's my word now) is Teemo.

MarshbouyNov 25, 20166 votes

Can't stand facing him. Pointless to gank because he can escape so easily and incredibly hard to shut down in lane once he gets going. Don't even get me started on having to stop his splitpush.

Cryo00Nov 26, 20165 votes

I hate the fact that his ult can be cast even when he is cc'd.........like why.

TequilaZombieNov 26, 201610 votes

Trynd weakness is being kited. CC helps kite. CC infuriates both Tryndamere and the summoner playing him. He survives due to rage. The moment he rages the hardest is when being CC'ed. It all makes sense.

PennsNov 26, 20165 votes

"Kite Trynda" is one of the funniest things Ive ever heard tbh... He has one of the highest base move speeds in the game, he has his E dash with higher range than Cait auto attacks and most importantly his W slows by 30-60% based on rank for 4 seconds... 4.. and it doesnt decay at all.. This actually sounds way too broken, I hope lolwiki just made a mistake LOL.

Its almost impossible to avoid as well and lets not forget how, if maxed, it reduces everyones AD by 80.. There isnt 1 item in the entire game that gives that much AD.

TequilaZombieNov 26, 20162 votes

Well, as long as you're not completely immobile, you can just wait for him to close the gap on you and then you use your mobility. In a team fight scenario, its even easier as you can rely on your allies to help you out as well.

There is a reason why his viability decreases at higher ranks.

PennsNov 26, 20161 votes

30% slow is pretty much the same as maxed Gnar boomerang and that shit doesnt let you move at all. Just that Trynda W lasts for 4 seconds and scales up to 60%... I doubt you can get away from that with just 1 mobility spell. And its not about teamfighting, him staying top 95% of the time no matter what happened in lane is the problem.

TequilaZombieNov 26, 20163 votes

Well, I was talking about kiting, no matter in which situation. He is kitable, as he's not as sticky as many other fighters who can constantly CC you or close the gap again and again.

For example:

Being kitable is actually the reason why he stays on top lane forever. He can't group and team fight as easily as other fighters can due to how quickly he's forced to pop his ult and how easy it is to kite him as a team.

Kiting on a 1v1 is much harder (as 1v1's are where he strives), but it is still doable if one gears itself towards it.

PermabannedGarenNov 27, 20161 votes

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"Kite Trynda" is one of the funniest things Ive ever heard tbh... He has one of the highest base move speeds in the game, he has his E dash with higher range than Cait auto attacks and most importantly his W slows by 30-60% based on rank for 4 seconds... 4.. and it doesnt decay at all.. This actually sounds way too broken, I hope lolwiki just made a mistake LOL.

Its almost impossible to avoid as well and lets not forget how, if maxed, it reduces everyones AD by 80.. There isnt 1 item in the entire game that gives that much AD.

When people say "kite Tryndamere" they don't mean "kite Tryndamere in a 1v1".

In fact, very rarely does anyone say "kite x" and mean to do so in a 1v1. Very few ADCs can kite Nasus for example in a 1v1, but kiting is one of Nasus' main weakness.

You kite them in team fights. Tryndamere has to either E or flash to get on your ADC, so once it's used any hard CC stops his ability to dive, allowing your team to force his ult out. And while he's being peeled so you can kite him his ult duration is being wasted, meaning he probably is going to have to try to disengage or die.

This is why Tryndamere is bad at team fighting.

xBaron NashorxNov 27, 20162 votes

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You kite them in team fights. Tryndamere has to either E or flash to get on your ADC, so once it's used any hard CC stops his ability to dive, allowing your team to force his ult out. And while he's being peeled so you can kite him his ult duration is being wasted, meaning he probably is going to have to try to disengage or die.

This is why Tryndamere is bad at team fighting.

I actually rely on this to win matches, if they're spending 5 people to CC one bruiser, the rest of my team is beating on them for free. I usually but BoS+ another movement speed item PLUS Deadmans' so once they have spanked me a bit i can still get out easily.

Then i farm jungle or push to restore some hp and re-engage for some kills on the left overs. Seems to work great for me. Tryns' weakness isn't CC or kiting, you can buy items to counter both of those issues. Tryns' weakness is players not comprehending how powerful he is and backing off. He's a Go-Hard-OR-Go-Home champ.

Hard engage in a suicide rush? Get a kill. Try to play conservative, ranking Q and healing lots? Die loads.

His perfect build order is counter-intuitive too, you don't rush shiv and IE. You rush BT so you can win trades in lane while ranking W to secure kills once you have an advantage percentagewise in current HP totals.

PermabannedGarenNov 27, 20161 votes

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I actually rely on this to win matches, if they're spending 5 people to CC one bruiser, the rest of my team is beating on them for free. I usually but BoS+ another movement speed item PLUS Deadmans' so once they have spanked me a bit i can still get out easily.

Then i farm jungle or push to restore some hp and re-engage for some kills on the left overs. Seems to work great for me. Tryns' weakness isn't CC or kiting, you can buy items to counter both of those issues. Tryns' weakness is players not comprehending how powerful he is and backing off. He's a Go-Hard-OR-Go-Home champ.

Hard engage in a suicide rush? Get a kill. Try to play conservative, ranking Q and healing lots? Die loads.

His perfect build order is counter-intuitive too, you don't rush shiv and IE. You rush BT so you can win trades in lane while ranking W to secure kills once you have an advantage percentagewise in current HP totals.

What is this "five people" shit?

The support alone can peel Tryndamere. A single Morgana Q is going to ruin Tryndamere's hopes and dreams. He's going to have to ult and then try to get away. Janna can peel Tryndamere so easily it's laughable, and she can also peel multiple people. Once Tryndamere has blown his load, the team fight is now a 4v5.

You don't get Bloodthirster on Tryndamere at all in most scenarios. You do, in fact, rush shiv in most scenarios.

item 3087 item 3158 item 3071 item 3153 item 3031 item 3046

This is the best Tryndamere build, as it gives him everything he needs and compensates for his weaknesses best. Against good players you still won't be very good at team fighting, but it makes it very hard to escape him.

xBaron NashorxNov 27, 20162 votes

What is this bronze Elo shit? You have bork, which has always been bad and always will be. AD/AS/Crit scaling mechanics dictate the only AS you can afford is on crit items already ala shiv/old-pd/old-tri-force.

And who goes over crit cap by buying pd AND shiv? You're dumb as rocks to think that's a legit build, there's not even a defence item in there.

PermabannedGarenNov 28, 20161 votes

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What is this bronze Elo shit? You have bork, which has always been bad and always will be. AD/AS/Crit scaling mechanics dictate the only AS you can afford is on crit items already ala shiv/old-pd/old-tri-force.

And who goes over crit cap by buying pd AND shiv? You're dumb as rocks to think that's a legit build, there's not even a defence item in there.

Bronze elo?

Try Challenger baddie.

This build was pioneered by BoxerPete, the highest ranked Tryndamere main in the world. He doesn't use it all that much anymore, but that's not because it's bad. In his own words he just "got bored with it".

Afraid not my friend. Tryndamere gets a lot of AD from his Q passive alone. By contrast, he doesn't have any attack speed steroids like Jax or Master Yi. This is why rushing a big AD item like Bloodthirster is stupid. You're spending 3,700 gold on a bunch of AD (without any attack speed to make good use of it, and without having enough bonus AD scaling for that to not matter), a shield (on a champion whose ult lets them not die and is already almost unbeatable 1v1), and a lot of lifesteal, which you won't proc as often because, once again, shit-tier attack speed (and is honestly made redundant by your Q heal). By contrast, for 1,100 less gold you get more crit (up to 65% if your passive is at max), a good amount of attack speed, movement speed for chasing, waveclear, and burst damage on your first auto attack.

Bloodthirster is an incredibly inefficient rush on Tryndamere. You aren't making good use of the stats. Shiv is a big power spike at a much lower cost. For the price of bloodthirster, you can get shiv and a caulfield's warhammer, or shiv, ionian's, and a dagger. This will give you much higher DPS than Bloodthirster alone would.

Also, your hatred of botrk is silly. Tryndamere was one of the only good users of it, and now that it was buffed it's better on him. Tryndamere is, at his core, a duelist. He duels people. Blade of the Ruined King is the best lifesteal item for dueling people. The lifesteal is nice (especially since you have attack speed with it), it gives some AD, a good amount of attack speed (once again attack speed is important because you have no attack speed steroids in your kit), on-hit damage, and the active is extremely important for chasing people down. This build is really all about making Tryndamere very hard to escape.

Going over the crit cap isn't particularly important, especially when Tryndamere doesn't get crit chance all the time with his passive like Yasuo does. Having higher crit gives you more consistent DPS throughout the entire fight, and being able to reach 100% at all (as opposed to your shitty build which never would).

Defense item? Only bad Tryndamere players need to get a dedicated defense item in every game.

xBaron NashorxNov 28, 20162 votes

That's a huge post for one silly, obvious lie.

-No, someone in challenger did not 'create' it. They made it popular. Literallly every build has been tried out already.

-Secondly, no, bork is still bad. Especially when you already have 2 AS or crit items, the extra AS is garbage compared to a BT.

-Finally, no, BoxerPete isn't good "Just because he's Challenger". Ranking means nothing in this game, there is a metric asstonne of guys better, who never get to challenger because Riot shoves toxic players all in together and prevents them from getting out of bronze or silver. I'm not even joking here, pro players have attempted suicide because they are sick of how obviously rigged this game is. You're a fuckwit who literally knows nothing about the game you play. S1 i was Gold, top 15% which is todays' Diamond and have only dropped in elo since.

edit; Forgot to mention, I dropped ELO since S1 yet in Natural Selection (another team orientated strategic game) i dominated the entire asia/oceana region. It wasn't a fluke, hitting top 15% in league. Riot just got better at rigging it ala disconnections, can't connect to game, throwing you in with trolls 20+ matches in a row etc.

PermabannedGarenNov 28, 20161 votes

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That's a huge post for one silly, obvious lie.

Afraid not little guy.

-No, someone in challenger did not 'create' it. They made it popular. Literallly every build has been tried out already.

All right, I realize now that you're not very smart, so I'm going to be a nice guy and explain a few basic things to you.

First of all, do not use quotation marks unless you're actually quoting what I said. The word "create" did not appear in my post a single time.

Second of all, "create" and "pioneered" are not necessarily synonymous.

2a : a person or group that originates or helps open up a new line of thought or activity or a new method or technical development

Which BoxerPete did. Whether or not he was the first to use his CDR build doesn't matter, he was the one who gave it the most exposure and made it more popular.

-Secondly, no, bork is still bad. Especially when you already have 2 AS or crit items, the extra AS is garbage compared to a BT.

The omission of berserker's greaves makes it far more necessary, especially when being able to auto attack more often directly correlates with higher sticking potential. The active also helps with this, which you cowardly refused to address.

You have provided no argument, you're just whining and saying what I said is wrong with no substance.

-Finally, no, BoxerPete isn't good "Just because he's Challenger".

He is considerably better than you my terrible friend.

Ranking means nothing in this game,

It means that players in a higher rank are generally better, but this is what all the nobodies who can't get to a high rank like to girlishly cry out and claim.

This is also a very ironic point of view for someone who tried to dismiss the build as "bronze elo". So rank matters when you use it to dismiss someone else's argument, but not when I use it to counter said dismissal? Lol what a hypocrite. You're so desperately trying to find a way to make yourself look better than you did that you're changing your point of view as you go along. How sad.

there is a metric asstonne of guys better,

Name them. =)

who never get to challenger because Riot shoves toxic players all in together and prevents them from getting out of bronze or silver.

That must be why Silencee, an insanely toxic player and a Master Yi one trick pony, casually gets himself out of bronze or silver on several cheaply bought accounts.

I'm not even joking here,

I know you're not joking, that you're serious makes it all the more hilarious.

pro players have attempted suicide because they are sick of how obviously rigged this game is.

Name these girly crybabies.

But if you want to use pro players, IWDominate, Dyrus, Imaqtpie, Scarra, and quite a few others do in fact think that rank tends to correlate with player skill. Dom in particular hates playing with anyone lower than Diamond 1.

You're a fuckwit who literally knows nothing about the game you play.

Your insults are both childishly lazy and totally devoid of substance. Compared to myself, a much smarter man who has casually demolished every cute point you've tried to make while far more eloquently making it known how far beneath me you are in an intellectual sense.

S1 i was Gold, top 15% which is todays' Diamond and have only dropped in elo since.

People got better at the game. You're not smart enough to improve, so you couldn't keep up. =)

edit; Forgot to mention, I dropped ELO since S1 yet in Natural Selection (another team orientated strategic game) i dominated the entire asia/oceana region. It wasn't a fluke, hitting top 15% in league. Riot just got better at rigging it ala disconnections, can't connect to game, throwing you in with trolls 20+ matches in a row etc.

I'm going to be frank here my friend.

You're a nobody. You're not important. No one cares who you are. Even if you were some dime a dozen low diamond player right now you'd still be a nobody. As hilarious as your attempt at posturing by bringing up your season one rank or your rank in some indie game is, it's incredibly misplaced and sad.

We're not talking about Natural Selection.

We're talking about League of Legends.

xBaron NashorxNov 28, 20162 votes

^ Literally the dumbest retort ever, clearly made by a pseudo-intellectual poser.

I love the finale "People got better at the game. You're not smart enough to improve, so you couldn't keep up. =)"

They actually didn't, average CS, kills and game completion time have gotten statistically worse. Not better.

PermabannedGarenNov 28, 20162 votes

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^ Literally the dumbest retort ever, clearly made by a pseudo-intellectual poser.

I love the finale "People got better at the game. You're not smart enough to improve, so you couldn't keep up. =)"

They actually didn't, average CS, kills and game completion time have gotten statistically worse. Not better.

Still no refutation to what I've said? All right. I accept your concession, even if you were too cowardly to give it to me openly like a man.

As for the only thing you felt confident enough to respond to, got a source? That would be interesting is true.

MLDzXnRRRNov 26, 20163 votes

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I hate the fact that his ult can be cast even when he is cc'd.........like why.

Because the rest of his kit is garbage. His passive crit is ok early, if you are lucky, but the other melee DPS champions have passives that scale way better into the game (Yasuo, Yi, Jax etc).
Q - not great without AP, the bonus dmg is probably strong; W - unreliable; E - decent, but not great now even with 40 cdr, because of the mobility creep. R - even with the large hp pool he gets bursted before he can reach any important target, then CCed or exhausted while ults and the enemy team is spamming emotes or runs in circles around him. Without crits he has no way to duel anyone, because he has no good damage abilities and he is with 125 range attacks. His lategame DPS is lower than many marksman or melee carries, but he can afford to go full dmg, because of his ult.

CritkeeperNov 26, 20165 votes

Trynd main here. I've got over five thousand games on Tryndamere across all seasons.

I never asked for Tryndamere to be relegated to split pushing in season 2, but thats what happened. In season 1 before he was reworked to use fury he was actually really good in team fights. Ever since they removed his bonus crit damage, nerfed his ult duration, max healing, and his spin range, he's been forced to split push.

At this point there is so much CC and mobility in the game, even if RIOT were to revert Tryndamere largely to his old kit, it wouldn't make him any better in a team fight.

The problem with Tryndamere is that he tries to do too many things. He wants to be immune to death, pump out ridiculous damage and be super sticky all at the same time. Its too much.

"Guy with a person-sized sword" doesn't scream "mobility / stickiness". If it were up to me I'd take away Tryndamere's stickiness (mocking shout and nerf spin cooldown), and replace it with something that would allow him to exist in team fights.

Trynd doesn't need stickiness to play the game, because if he had that (and enough of everything else), he would just be broken. If he has that and doesn't have enough of everything else to team fight, he will just split push all day and thats just boring. What he needs is some ways to de-aggro. Undying rage is a fantastic de-aggro tool, but it isn't wise to force Trynd to have all his eggs in that one basket because it makes him too binary. It makes it impossible for him to fail without dying, or to win without stomping.

So he needs something like a sword block. Something that makes the enemy backline / frontline think twice about putting focus fire on Trynd, similar to how windwall functions for yasuo.

I'm thinking maybe like a channeled block that makes Trynd immune to any cc and damage originating from 180 degrees in front of him, but prevents him from moving, turning, attacking, or using spells or items while it is channeling.

I'm not saying thats the only way to fix his problems, but its in the right direction. He needs less stickiness and more functionality. He shouldn't be afraid of a big fight, and in order to realize that in his gameplay you have to make him EFFECTIVE in a big fight, otherwise he will never be there-- a smart Trynd player would just avoid confrontation at all costs and split push all day.

Here is thread I made on the overall ideas I have for Trynd if you are interested: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/Vr4sFriN-make-tryndamere-more-like-a-barbarian-warrior-with-a-huge-sword-and-less-of-a-saboteur-or-bandit

VexingRavenNov 27, 20162 votes

{quoted} So he needs something like a sword block. Something that makes the enemy backline / frontline think twice about putting focus fire on Trynd, similar to how windwall functions for yasuo.

Please for the love of god don't make another Yasuo.

ZephyrDrakeNov 26, 20164 votes

how is a trynd that is losing lane HARD able to get item 3087 and item 3031 edge before you have the items to be able to deal with him?

WinTheWarOnPantsNov 26, 20163 votes

not saying that tryndameres play-style is unfun to play against(cause it is), but Singed Nasus Heimerdinger have similar yet FAR more toxic play-styles than him IMO. also, split push Yasuo might be even worse as well.