Fundamental problem with Nasus

Z3Sleeper··1 votes·193 views

Keeping it short:

He is supposed to be one of the best defensive farmers that can be bullied. Yet has the best gank assistance tool in the game (Wither).

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redniwediS1 votes

There's a whole bunch of roots, stuns, and displacements that other top laners have that are just as detrimental to someone escaping a gank as Wither is. Wither is strong and all, but it's nothing to write home about until it is maxed and Nasus has decent CDR. By then Nasus should be able to handle his lane by himself, so his jungler can focus on the other lanes and Dragon.

Z3Sleeper1 votes

5 second 35% slow that increases over time. That's strong enough to write home about even at level 1.

Who else has a gank securing tool on par with that?

redniwediS1 votes

Well, seeing as how Nasus starts Q we'd have to look at level 2 onward, so at least two skills can be used.

Irelia 1 second stun, scales up to 2 seconds when maxed, conditional. Singed Flip away from safety, conditional snare. TahmKench Conditional 1.5 second stun, devour while jungler positions. Yorick Wall explains itself. Shen 1.5 second taunt.

This isn't every top lane champ that has the tools to secure a gank, but they are champions who physically take their opponent's ability to act and limit or negate it. I'll never say that Wither isn't a strong ability, because it is incredibly strong, but to act like it is so powerful that it stands on it's own at the top is a bit much. Top lane is a very dangerous lane, and Nasus is just one of many dangers.

Besides, Nasus has a very average win rate of 50% or lower with every keystone but Kleptomancy, which has a 56% win rate. If anything about him is too strong right now it's not a part of his kit.

Z3Sleeper1 votes

Aight Tahm maybe. But his isn't a click target ranged CC.

The rest eh. Yorick is a hit or miss depending on matchup.

redniwediS1 votes

I'll freely admit that for as strong as it is, Nasus has one of the easiest to use gank securing abilities.

Z3Sleeper1 votes

Also honestly I don't mind the Klepto thing too much. I strongly believe Wither is the main cause of it even working in lane because most aggression is instantly mitigated and the threat of the jg ganking while Nasus has Wither is enough to keep experienced players from harassing him at all.

If it wasn't an issue, I'm sure people would be abusing the less damaging Klepto + Coin Nasus. But since Wither deters all aggression and sets up for easy ganks, that just isn't happening.

Just something I noticed from all the times I've faced Nasus in ranked thus far. I never try to punish in the middle of the lane cuz there's no escaping a jg gank while Withered.

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