Can we fix blitz's Q hitbox please?

koshkyra··43 votes·1,853 views

I honestly see no reason I should've died here. I clearly dodged the hook.

https://youtu.be/n7wyZVbOJOE

If the game needs to make a whole other "hook" (you can clearly see the 2 hooks) then it obviously didn't deserve to hit me in the first place.

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notice me Sin pi17 votes

apparently according to plats and diamonds u r supposed to git gud and somehow magically dodge that hook...

Br4ndon15 votes

Blitz is bullshit, the entire champions kit is bullshit.

Also getting to plat just meant you were luckier then 90% of the community and got less retarded teammates than the enemy. Lost my diamond promos because someone disconnected on my deciding game. I assume diamond is probably the same, until you get close to d1-3.

Faceroll Tactics7 votes

If getting high elo is luck, how can smurfs and elo boosters maintain such high winrates from bronze to masters?

TS Media1 votes

They normally duo with other people who are equally as good.

Faceroll Tactics1 votes

Apdo, the best solo que player in the world, has 91% winrate with no duos. Fukin elo hell amirite?

Before you rank shame me at least I can accept that my overall winrate is mostly my fault alone

TS Media1 votes

Tough. I think getting though plat is one of the hardest parts of climbing through elo. And I already know about apdo. He's one of, if not my favorite, lol player and I study his plays intensively to see how to carry through the brackets.

As for ranks, who cares about ranks?

Melledoneus2 votes

They min-max for maximum luck.

Duh.

DariusDemiurge7 votes

Blitzcrank has evolved himself into a superior hooker.

Also they really do need to get rid of that cone on the end of skill shots.

AR URF7 votes

I'd also like to add https://vimeo.com/219466796

Promising Garden3 votes

Obviously Jhin is running the reworked Ghost summoner. [sg-ahri-2]

AR URF1 votes

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Obviously Jhin is running the reworked Ghost summoner. [sg-ahri-2]

Shut up ahri, just stand there and look pretty.

WaffIe Iron5 votes

you juked very late, questionable but I would say it landed, the reason 2 pop up is because if the hook hits you then it centers you could slow down any grab and there would be 2

Built to Tylt1 votes

It's a known issue that his (and Lux's) Q-boxes are notoriously flaky. This is severely compounded by the skin that may be applied. >:|

Promising Garden2 votes

I don't think whether it landed or not is the real question being asked, but rather, can the hitbox be reduced, or the graphic be enlarged to show where it will hit. I don't have this issue often, but I think everyone has had that occasional hook where you feel gypped.

I don't like them messing with kits when unnecessary, but asking for a more obvious hitbox is perfectly reasonable.

Durzaka1 votes

The issue in this case isnt just one of the hook.

Its also the player model. The hooks model hit the player model, both of which werent quite were you expected them to be (lux is bent over in a run animation, but her hitbox is still vertical. If you imagine that, the blitz hook didnt really miss at all.

Doctor Dyment4 votes

Either make the hitbox smaller to reflect the actual animation or make the animation larger to reflect the hitbox. What we have currently doesn't work and needs to be changed to one or the other.

Bladeglory2 votes

Patch Notes: Blitzcrank's fist sizes on all skins have been increased by 400% to accommodate the 50% width and 20% length increase we are giving to his Q.

Doctor Dyment1 votes

There you go.

Daddy Ants4 votes

I'd like to add -

https://streamable.com/50adh - Thresh Q as well.

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The second hook comes from it "snapping" onto your champion. IIRC if a skillshot misses, it will look for anything within a small radius to latch onto. You must have been in that radius. But yeah, it's hitbox is quite questionable sometimes.

If a skillshot misses then the spell shouldn't snap onto someone else in range.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

Thresh Q has been buggy for the longest time.

But when in game, hold down space and you´ll see a circle around your character, basically anything that connects to that circle will affect you.

That's what happened with the Ashe arrow, it's hitbox is pretty irregular and fat.

MohawkBird1 votes

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I'd like to add -

https://streamable.com/50adh - Thresh Q as well.

If a skillshot misses then the spell shouldn't snap onto someone else in range.

That to me just looks like crazy lag. Even Riot's shitty hitboxes are not that level of bad.

zlumpy2 votes

He clearly fired a second stealthed hook duh. You obviously shoulda dropped a control ward to reveal that one prior to trying to juke!

Thefrostyviking2 votes

When in game, hold down space and you´ll see a circle around your character, anything that connects with that circle will affect you.

The blitz hook looking like it suddenly changes direction is just it aligning fancily with the center after making contact with the edge of the circle-

It feels like shit but it was a hit.

Faceroll Tactics2 votes

Circles hitting circles, you'd have to change the way the game is coded to fix it. Sorry.

Sona Ping2 votes

You clearly didn't dodge the hook, this isn't Dark Souls. The large rectangle that is the Blitz Q touched the large circle that is Lux, so that scores a "hit". So the next animation plays which centers Blitz's hand on the hit target and moves it next to him.

Like you play Lux, you know that your Q isn't a little, tiny circle that you have to neatly surround the champ with, anywhere will do; you see plenty of examples where your circles and rectangle touch the circle around the enemy and you get hits.

SanKakU2 votes

It's not its hitbox that is in error, it's the visual angle that is incorrect. Have you ever looked at an analog clock and seen the hands not line up properly? Blitzcrank, and a few other champs at least including Jinx seem to have this problem. I made a thread about it a while ago.

Don't believe me? Go into practice mode and disable cooldowns and see for yourself. The hand angle is really weird and it makes even less sense than an analog clock.

Fleiryn2 votes

No really, It actually hit your hitbox rather clear, champ model =/= hitbox and if it was it wouldn't be as fun as you'd think. If dodging blitz grab was that easy he'd be like 30% winrate

Infernape1 votes

The second hook comes from it "snapping" onto your champion. IIRC if a skillshot misses, it will look for anything within a small radius to latch onto. You must have been in that radius. But yeah, it's hitbox is quite questionable sometimes.

GCLock6661 votes

This has been an issue for as long as I can remember playing (3yrs+?) Honestly, don't hold your breath. Riot doesn't seem to want to rework any of the "Engage" champs' "Engage" abilities simply because they're afraid of massively screwing up that said champs kit if they indeed do, screw up.

CleverCactus1 votes

Right now the visual is just a copy/paste version of his hand in a closed fist, with the thumb pointing up. To make the visual appear bigger to better match the hitbox, they could could make the hand with fingers spread open, like it is reaching out to grab you.

JoeMG1 votes

For how impactful that ability is, it's WAY to easy to execute. I would love a hitbox adjustment to actually make this ability boarderline non-toxic.

L Psy Kongroo1 votes

Thresh hook too pls

Professor Ward1 votes

You did not dodge the hook, a portion of your champions hitbox was 100% inside the blitz hitbox.

If you understand the coding, there is a slight moment of overlap, and this is doable with every single skill shot in the game

Thresh hook, blitz hook, ezreal q, jinx w. All perform in this exact same fasion.

Bolwinkel1 votes

This has been a problem since I started playing back in Season 3, pretty sure it was a problem before then, and pretty sure that its always been complained about.

Lauchmelder1 votes

They need to fix hook/grab hitboxes overall.

Have you seen Nautilus' Q? It's at least a full anchor longer than the visuals.

Kavren20551 votes

pretty close tho

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