Can’t be good at everything, Janna - that’s a job for Threeeeeeeeeeeeesh

Uiru·9/1/2015, 7:17:32 PM·202 votes·9,375 views

Somebody wrote this and nobody said "don't you think that's going to piss off the people who are paying attention to what's going on" (or somebody did and was fired for saying it).

Thanks for continuing to make your balancing priorities clear, Riot. Fuck strategy, Thresh is more fun to watch than Janna, so down she goes while Thresh remains untouched. The ult healing nerf is just the sort of "fuck you" dingleberry on the neverending shit sundae that I've come to expect from Riot's balance team.

Compensation buffs indeed. Max range is now 1741, down from 1760. Just like when the maximum knockup was increased along with a nerf to the instant cast duration, this is a straight nerf with a pie in the sky buff/compensation that will almost never actually matter.

Good at everything. Oh my God. Somebody wrote that. Janna is now good at damage! Janna can now reasonably expect to win a fight without simply running away from it! Janna can now function without an ally nearby! If the "good at everything" champs are all in line for nerfs in 5.18 you can find me at the hat buffet. Right after that I'll be handing out flying pigs and selling all kinds of bridges!

edit: I would additionally like to thank Riot for the absolutely scumbag move of sneaking this into patch notes with absolutely no warning or PBE time. All we had was the per second bonus increase, which, while sounding silly on paper (2255 range at full charge?) would NEVER BE RELEVANT ANYWAY. All this does is reinforce the instant cast use case, which is what Riot appears to be trying to kill. Bravo, Riot! You are bad at what you are trying to do and you are bad for trying to do it!

239 Comments

Sakura Mirage9/1/2015, 7:31:54 PM55 votes

Janna needed the nerf it isn't even that huge to be honest 0.1 ap ratio of the ult when Janna only builds like what 150-200 ap as a support maybe even lower. It will just drop her winrate by maybe 3% which than becomes a balanced champion at 51% .

Dreadlocks9/1/2015, 7:24:07 PM15 votes

Yeah thresh is the jack of all trades i agree.. Kinda surprised his win rate isn't higher but i guess part of that is the lack of communication in solo Q (text vs verbal) But yeah his ability to CC is among the highest in the game, he can play back in team fights and throw lanterns to save people or play forward as an off tank. I guess he's like the old season 4 Lee Sin, except i find thresh to be a more exaggerated version of that because thresh only becomes more and more valuable/stronger as the game goes on.

I'm sure many people have come up with ideas to balance Thresh, but none will be considered :)

Vekkna9/1/2015, 9:01:40 PM15 votes

I'll never understand why Thresh players think their skillshot is the skilliest of skill shots. To listen to them talk Thresh dies faster than Sona, moves slower than Zyra, heals for less than Annie, does less damage than Janna, has less cc than Soraka, burns mana faster than Lux, and commits more to all-ins than Leona.

Enosetc9/1/2015, 7:33:36 PM13 votes

there hasn't been a single point in the game where janna hasn't been a good pick as support and i'd much rather have a good janna over a good thresh

you can argue the very valid point that thresh has never been bad, but janna has been a rusty, stripped screw for far too long

brad9/2/2015, 12:54:04 AM11 votes

are we ignoring the fact that it says draven and not thresh

Reaper Soraka9/1/2015, 8:43:32 PM10 votes

They don't want anyone's healing abilities aside from Raka to rival a Relic Shield. It would be imbalanced

THESuperStuntMan9/1/2015, 10:16:54 PM8 votes

Like, I know it's popular to hate Thresh, but seriously, you're delusional if you think Janna can't rival Thresh as a top support in the game. Not to mention being way easier to play. Thresh is hard to play to his highest potential. It's pretty easy as Janna to press E on the ADC and outrun everyone just because you're Janna (Not that that's her highest potential, but it's still a ton of free power for no skill).

Subject 59/1/2015, 9:46:49 PM7 votes

Thresh Everything in the game for CC and more besides sustain Janna A knockup that is usually never wound up at all and used as reactionary- Oh wait that was removed. A w that slows, E is a shield and ult pushes back while also healing. Janna, why are you so broken? summoner 1 -Riot

Linthe9/1/2015, 9:48:08 PM1 votes

Janna's W damages too. I have killed more with W than anything else on Janna.