League of Light Speed

dEAdbUs·Oct 30, 2015·4 votes·1,115 views

http://s18.postimg.org/wdp89tg6h/fizz_op.png

30 Comments

PennsOct 30, 20152 votes

https://i.gyazo.com/5db4b949b1cc53778b5137441f99aef8.png

dEAdbUsOct 30, 20151 votes

Does it matter? I doubt there is many people who has 0.24 reactions speed when they're prepared. And I almost sure there is very few humans on Earth who has 0.24 reaction time. Minus from it 0.1 sec of my ping!

PennsOct 30, 20151 votes

Well it was either super late game, or Fizz was fed really hard and since it happened in 0.24 seconds, he hit his ult around 1 second before. So you couldve either dodged it normally/ with flash or used QSS/ Zhonyas to negate it. Idk when this happened (if he was split pushing, actually hit it in a teamfight,..), but just sticking to your team does a lot too. But yeah Fizz burst is pretty "good" if it hits lol.

dEAdbUsOct 30, 20151 votes

QSS removes just slow from Fizz's R if I'm correct, damage and damage buff will stay (not sure about buff).

PennsOct 30, 20151 votes

Idk about the damage buff (I think it gets removed too.. at least it should), but Im pretty sure if you QSS Fizz ult it just stays on the ground under you as if he shot it there but hit no one.

dEAdbUsOct 30, 20151 votes

Anyway doubt that QSS could help if I died in 0.24 sec.

Meep ManOct 30, 20152 votes

Thats really easy to do. Time your E to deal damage right after R jumps up and then immediately Q. He is an Assassin.

dEAdbUsOct 30, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Inept Maverick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E30j6z8R,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-10-30T18:20:16.597+0000)

Thats really easy to do. Does that mean you can dodge any Fizz' ult with Talon?

You can't E Fizz when when he's on his pole. 0.24 perfectly shows that he jumped on me right in time when I was swallowed by his fish. That means he ulted and jumped on me in a very close time. I game it looked like I died in a blink of an eye, I just didn't have enough time to react. Thats why I made this topic. I wasn't walking with his ult on me and didn't wait till he hit me. I just died in a moment.

NemeBroOct 30, 20152 votes

Fizz's player had the reaction time to land that much damage on you in .24 seconds, with only one ability being targeted.

You were either out of position, not being peeled for at all, or were simply not as good as the Fizz player. It happens.

dEAdbUsOct 30, 20151 votes

So what supposed to do players who are against Fizz? For example, Talon's combo or Wuk's combo can't be done in 0.24 just because they need to land AA and they depend on their AS.

dEAdbUsOct 30, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Fizz's player had the reaction time to land that much damage on you in .24 seconds, with only one ability being targeted.

Doubt, looks like I was targeted by him before he did his combo. Btw I expected his combo, I actually wanted to fight with him, but I literally died in a blink of an eye, I had no time to press any button. That's why I made this topic.

BetaDude40Oct 30, 20151 votes

I don't like Fizz at all, but here is what happens just looking at this.

Fizz throws ult He then jumps onto his E Ult damage goes off 1.5 seconds later He probably activates trickster the moment the shark comes up. Q immediately upon landing

Now, ~1.74 seconds is not a long time to react, but it is by far not impossible. 1.75 is quite within human reaction timing; it's just that you need to practice your reaction speed.

dEAdbUsOct 30, 20151 votes

Thats what happened to me, just image Fizz instead for Rengar:

{quoted}

Meanwhile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW_st2H2Y2Y

BetaDude40Oct 30, 20151 votes

The difference here is that Rengar can go invisible and none of his damage is delayed. There's literally no way he could have reacted to that properly unless he either had a Zhonya's (which would be awkward) or he already had a pink ward in the field.

Fizz is different in that unless he popped out from the jungle (in which case the answer to that is item 3361 ) or you were just flat-out too slow to get out of the way.

Which that's fine. My reaction timing sucks completely. I have fairly good game knowledge, but my speed is just so terrible.

MimyOct 30, 20151 votes

Aww come on! you had 0.24 seconds of counter play right there!

dEAdbUsOct 30, 20151 votes

true, hehehe

Sans Wasnt HardOct 30, 20151 votes

I once died to a fizz in .03 seconds :/

BaughwsseryOct 30, 20151 votes

His ult and Playful hit at the same time, and then he pressed Q. That sounds like a pretty standard burst to me. (I don't like Fizz, but it is what it is).

dEAdbUsOct 30, 20151 votes

This topic is about that LoL requires non-human reaction speed T_T

KorilloOct 30, 20151 votes

You say you had no time to react but you had the entire duration of his ult to react, I'm sure you knew what to expect once the ult landed on you.

If you get hit by a fizz ult expect bad news man.

dEAdbUsOct 30, 20151 votes

Time to react depends on distance that ult travels.

KorilloOct 30, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Time to react depends on distance that ult travels.

ya and the 1.5 seconds after it lands on you before the shark comes out??

dEAdbUsOct 30, 20151 votes

He used ult in almost melee range after that I died in 0.24 sec. There was no 1.5 sec.

KorilloOct 30, 20151 votes

Well it doesn't matter how far it travels, once it lands you are slowed for 1.5 seconds and then the fish comes out. Based on your screenshot, you took damage from the fish, his E and then his Q, so it's pretty safe to say he landed the fish, then timed his E to land after the fish came out then finished you off immediately with his Q. The fish slows you for 1.5 seconds but does 0 damage so the 0.24 seconds is all immediately after this time period. Saying you had no time to react is a little disingenuous.

If I had to guess this happened in the talon game you played where the Fizz was 24/11/9. It's not surprising that a Fizz this fed would burst you like that.

dEAdbUsOct 30, 20151 votes

But is could be another way - he used ult, pressed his combo, and then his fish came out. Why Fizz can't kill someone without his ult? I mean, is it impossible at all?

Btw it was late game so fed or not fed - wasnt important already. I had almost full build, but I wasn't able to burst Fizz so fast as he bursts me.

KorilloOct 30, 20151 votes

He can kill someone without his ult, but look at the screenshot you took. His ult did damage to you, therefore the fish came out. In reality that whole combo took 1.74 seconds.

You also allowed a fizz to get within melee range of you to land an easy ult without him having to even use his Q. He likely used flash to close this gap (I would hope at least for your sake) but still this is the kind of burst you should expect out of a fizz. Especially a full build fizz.

You are right in the sense that you cannot react to something that fast, but you should be expecting it. Anticipating is always better than reacting.