When are we going to address Talon and Shaco?

Cloud273··9 votes·904 views

No matter where you look these champs are completely busted. Shaco is just broken as hell after his rework (not really sure what specifically needs to be nerfed, probably a combination of several things though), and Talon simply synergizes too well with lethality. Combined with the safety from his parkour and high base MS, it's extremely difficult to punish him.

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Souji4 votes

Talon already has 3 nerfs on PBE plus the nerfs to his items this patch?

Blåbæret2 votes

Shaco especially needs huge nerfs. Shaco is hands down the most retarded champ right now. So freaking stupid it blows my mind. Inbetween the constant cloning, stealthing, wall-jumping what exactly is the counterplay to this champ?

Lord Malpercio1 votes

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Shaco especially needs huge nerfs. Shaco is hands down the most retarded champ right now. So freaking stupid it blows my mind. Inbetween the constant cloning, stealthing, wall-jumping what exactly is the counterplay to this champ?

Shaco is at his weakest point ever after the rework. The counterplay to him is the same as always, and he does much less damage than before.

I really don't know what you guys want. His Q, W, E, R, and even passive all got heavy nerfs with the rework.

Eedat3 votes

The counterplay to him is the same as always

Actually thats the issue thats becoming a huge problem. There isn't a real counter to his 4.5 seconds of invisibility

Lord Malpercio2 votes

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Actually thats the issue thats becoming a huge problem. There isn't a real counter to his 4.5 seconds of invisibility

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Any traps. Proper warding.

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There's the lovely blue plants in the jungle.

That's just naming ways to counter the stealth. He's also just invisible, it doesn't mean he can't be hit - Hard CC is still available to stop him.

Fisher No Chains4 votes

Do you know that there's no way to reveal an invisible target?

Big Lincoln1 votes

yes there is, a handful of abilities grant true sight

SaltyKracka2 votes

Not any more.

Big Lincoln1 votes

yes they do. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Sight

scroll down to true sight.

rebelprincess011 votes

Just play lee sin

Lord Malpercio1 votes

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Do you know that there's no way to reveal an invisible target?

Are- Are you joking right now? I'm sorry, but if that's what you think, then you're going to get shit on by Shaco, or any stealth champ for that matter, because you're completely ignorant of the ability. Please stop shitposting and do some actual reading before coming onto gameplay.

rebelprincess011 votes

Some people just dont get it

rebelprincess011 votes

are you dumb acually shaco is a high skill cap champ in high elo ofc anybody can out play him and he can out play anybody. idk why people say he is broken m8 have you ever faced a full build vayne or a full build shaco who kills you faster him or she ?? any way shaco has 2 ok builds this patch trinity and lethality lethality is getting nerfed so thats out of the question and for your information shaco"s basic stats are so low that urgot has more ad and armor in lvl 1 [slayer-jinx-catface]

AmazoX2 votes

Talon already has 3 nerfs on PBE plus the nerfs to his items this patch?

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