Because I have to detour 1200 gold from my core build into a Tiamat, just so I can actually clear half the camps without spending 60% of my health and mana on each.
Can we please address jungle champions' dependence on Tiamat? Even giving us a jungle item that builds out of it would be fine.
Kozmo tin can2 votesI just played 2 games as udyr and had no problems. I just use blue buff and kill scuttle asap.
Yenn2 votes[{quoted}](name=Kozmo tin can,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ByfAs436,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-08T22:50:21.001+0000)
I just played 2 games as udyr and had no problems. I just use blue buff and kill scuttle asap.
You're having no problems because you're playing at a low Gold/high Silver level and not at a Diamond level. The champion's kit doesn't matter as much when everyone is unskilled.
Another Diamond player playing something like Graves, Xin, or even Kha'zix, is stronger than Udyr unless they're behind multiple kills, because their entire income goes to core items.
Ratpie2 votesWait are we talking about Udyr? like one of most consistent junglers? Udyr still be winning most his games even diamond+ There is an imbalance vs certain champs, but that is more of a problem with those champs, but also you can't be stronger than every champ out there. Also Udyr wins more games than all of the ones you listed and has a higher winrate vs those particular champs than his average games......I do not see a real problem here problem. Maybe those champs you have to figure out how to play vs maybe your playstyle has a particular struggle there because most other peopel diamond or higher are not having problems vs those champs.
PhearBunny1 votesonly vs S tier champs. Otherwise u Gucci with 0 kills.
USG Failsawce1 votesI can't even believe my eyes right now... if Udyr has any issues, it's definitely NOT with his clear. Tiamat or not.