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Got an S grade as a support? Post your scoreboards here!

Athenes Lulu··2 votes·1,001 views

Ever wondered why getting S ranks as support is so seemingly difficult, especially to a lot of people? What about the harsh season 6 where games are more on laning, and less on teamfights so you can't rack up all those sweet assists? That's because it's not that easy. Are > 60% kill/objective, > 3 KDA, > 2 kills, minion farm, and wards placed/destroyed really the requirements needed to get that shiny S rank, even though only 4 games are analyzed? I hope not! "Graded based on percentile"? Your average player don't even have the access to see what constitutes the "top percentile", so the best way is to see existing scoreboards, and form a hypothesis of what determines "a good score". This is why if anyone got more games to show off, the seemingly "harsh" requirement may not be actually this harsh with a much larger sample size!

I'll start: http://puu.sh/o3VYs/ba4118852e.jpg http://puu.sh/p38Ne/6cbe3632b2.jpg http://puu.sh/p38Qy/2647f3af59.jpg http://puu.sh/p3bb6/91bd76ace6.jpg I have one more S game but I forgot to take a screenshot of my scoreboard of that game. Phooey.

I have lots of S rank games pre-S6, but they shouldn't really count especially on how game flow has changed drastically, as well as the piling up of many underplayed champs cough Lulu support.

######And I really wish match history online records what grades we get so we can "study" and improve :(

20 Comments

Fondling Gems3 votes

Am I actually the only one who finds that getting S rank on supports is really easy? I would say a good 2/3-1/3 games (based on champ familiarity) I get some form of S rank, and plenty of those games I just did decent.

Does the system take elo into account? Cause I play at about high silver-low gold level where there aren't many sup players. Idk. I just don't see why everyone finds it hard to get S ranks as a support.

Mysticman891 votes

MMR is not a factor when considering grading, you're compared to all players regardless of mmr.

King of BM1 votes

I went 1/9/21 and got S on alistar support.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

For your typical player, or even in the midst of the season 6 madness, it's not the easiest thing out there. Games end too fast before you can even get a 50% kill participation. Your laners snowballed too fast before you can rack up objective participation. Or sometimes you want to be a good guy support by not taking farm or kills? RIP that S rank. Talk about how the "majority" of X champ support players, especially mage like ones that steals kills like no tomorrow. If you're known to have tip-top shiny KDA, then yes, it's not that hard. But if you're more focused on just winning and not caring much about KDA, then it's gonna be a bit tough.

Or let's talk about how games on a certain champ/role piles up. I remember when the mastery system was first introduced (which was sometime last year), it was actually really easy to get S on Lulu support since that time not much people play it. I can get an half-assed score of 0/4/25 and a 59% kill participation, S. Now with that same score and same % kill participation, A at its best. So it's yes and no.

Yes, I'm pretty sure the system takes elo into account. If they don't subpar support mains like me probably won't even get S ranks, ever.

Fondling Gems1 votes

That's the thing, I don't care about kda much either. Sure, it is nice to look at, but if it is for a good cause I am all for flashing in front of a jinx ult at 50 hp if it will save others.

That being said mechanically I am not great at league, instead I get by on raw knowledge and not much else. So I am very good at pushing my champs to their limits and walking out of multiple teamfights with <100 hp and not the slightest worry about dying. My kda tends to shoot up pretty high because I (usually) don't die much.

I don't play many mage supports but I could see the difficulties there.

aaronautumn1 votes

Wheee :-) http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2191424245/40196668?tab=overview

aaronautumn1 votes

Here are some more (older ones) 1 death: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1893500613/40196668?tab=overview 1/1/23 http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1893561836/40196668?tab=overview 1/1/16 http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1882059088/40196668?tab=overview 1/1/31 http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1878112275/40196668 0/1/35

0 deaths: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1891180031/40196668?tab=overview 1/0/15

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Kill participation is very important, if that's one.

And since even the "best" Janna players don't take kills, that's also something.

King of BM1 votes

Idk I'm not too good at showing off so I never take screenshots when I get an S+ or anything

King of BM1 votes

but oh it shows in champions

http://imgur.com/I1GgxGa

King of BM1 votes

Okay guys. I finally found some of my old screenshots from s2-s4 i think. Pentas/quadras only though I'm sure there are more than I uploaded. Somewhere around 30-38 pictures.

http://imgur.com/a/fXBQc

AsphodelNext1 votes

Dang it, I can't remember which ones are S rank and which ones are A... I know I've gotten a lot of S ranks playing Karma and Lux support. Essentially, if I get any kills/farm, it thinks I did "better" than all the other supports out there and gives me the S. So somewhere around mid game, I go out and start farming to catch up, and if I had a good lane phase, I just one shot a squishy or two and get an easy S-.

AsphodelNext1 votes

I just remembered, I was working on something for the Riot API challenge that I never finished. If you don't know what an API is, basically it lets you get your hands on some of Riot's data. Unfortunately, even that doesn't say what rank people got, but if I can go through these games, with the data from the API, maybe I can piece together at least some of the factors that go into S rank, and about how important they are.

Like, how many CS is worth one kill, whether getting the last hit on a turret factors in, is it really harder for supports to get S rank, etc.

So yeah, post away, and maybe someday I'll come back to the project and use these for something. At the very least, I can see what kind of numbers your champion mastery score is ticking up, which is what I'm really hoping for to determine S rank status, since I can get a hold of that from the API. Ideally, it's something like S rank -> +200 mastery score, but it'd be interesting to see otherwise.

King of BM1 votes

You can go to your profile and click on champions, pick sorting as "Highest Mastery" and hover over the ones with border, itll show your seasons highest grade.

http://imgur.com/I1GgxGa

AsphodelNext1 votes

I meant which games are S and which are A, to link the match histories; I know that I've definitely gotten S a few times with both, though I think never S+.

Looking at it now, guess I only ever got to S- with Karma, though that'd sort of make sense since I have better control over my burst and can give kills away better.

Also, learned all my S+ are with URF champions... Evelynn Garen Malzahar

Çhåryzård1 votes

I don't know how to include the screenshot but I got an S- on Nami after having 40 assists

King of BM1 votes

Press F12 in game, Go to LoL folder, There should be a screenshots folder.

Çhåryzård1 votes

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Press F12 in game, Go to LoL folder, There should be a screenshots folder.

I have the screenshot i just dont know how to like, attach it. I don't have it posted anywhere so I can't use a url

King of BM1 votes

go to imgur.com, on the top click on upload images, you don't have to log in or anything, just locate the pic and start uploading and post the link

also dont use the attaching feature in forums, its broken. just ctrl v and post it here

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Oh, was talking about post-game scoreboards. Or you can link your match history (like one of the games I forgot to record).

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