Code her ult to work like gragas' ult, that way people have time to react to her ultimate instead of having to deal with a instantaneous 100-0 possibility. Her ult provides far to much reliable utility AND damage. Code it like gragas' ult and i guarantee it will work.
If that is not enough, change tibbers into a linear skill shot that does a aoe knockback to whatever it comes into contact with it.
2 simple solutions for a simple problem
BluePolarizer4 votesI don't see Annie as a problem. She's popular because her point and click CC, high damage and surprising tankiness wrecks melee assassins. However, put her against long ranged poke mids like Ziggs, Xerath and Ori, and she'd get wrecked since she can't even touch them without being chunked.
Back when the meta mids were Syndra, Ori, Xerath, Ziggs and Nidalee, Annie was nowhere to be seen.
Dokusei1 votesI don't see Annie as a problem. She's popular because her point and click CC, high damage and surprising tankiness wrecks melee assassins. However, put her against long ranged poke mids like Ziggs, Xerath and Ori, and she'd get wrecked since she can't even touch them without being chunked.
except shes not being played mid, shes being played as a support who has no form of a counter to that instantaneous ultimate.
xLegendary Troll1 votes
BluePolarizer1 votesI've seen more annie mids than annie supports. Annie support is hard countered by aggressive tank supports and long range poke supports. If Annie support falls behind she's totally useless because her actual utility is just a stun, and she needs items to be a damage threat. A Cait/Nami, Draven/Leona, Jinx/Thresh, Graves/Karma or Trist/Morg lane wrecks her.
You avoid a tibbers stun by not getting in range and just poking until you can burst her down in the duration of 1 stun.
Deep Terror Nami1 votesNerf her just because she's popular? Sivir is super popular now, too; nerf her as well?
Dokusei1 votes[{quoted}](name=Valkyrie Witch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BlsZ7edi,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-02-21T21:24:23.187+0000)
Nerf her just because she's popular? Sivir is super popular now, too; nerf her as well?
not nerf her because popular, there just needs to be someway to avoid a tibbers stun. As you can see right now there isn't
Deep Terror Nami1 votesThere wasn't anything different about her all year for the most part. Her popularity was what changed the most, so any new problem with her is strictly how she's perceived due to pick/ban rates.
DotEleven1 votes[{quoted}](name=Valkyrie Witch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BlsZ7edi,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-02-21T21:43:07.769+0000)
There wasn't anything different about her all year for the most part. Her popularity was what changed the most, so any new problem with her is strictly how she's perceived due to pick/ban rates.
Well, that's how these things get found. Nasus wasn't played for like a year. And then he got some minor changes and people tried him and were like "Well, damn Wither (the spell the didn't get changed) is freaking ridiculous." And then they lowered the 95% AS slow on it to half.
yes, people are over reacting in this thread thinking im trying to "gut" her.
All i want to do is see her ult coming and have the opportunity to dodge it. Not see that she has her stun up and have to play passive or else i end up dead.
Which is a completely valid concern. It was the same reason TF's Pick a Card was nerfed awhile back. they considered the fact he showed that he had a stun active to strong of a zoning tool (even though it could only be up for 10 seconds) meanwhile, Annie's walking around able to keep a stun indefinitely until she finally goes "Hmm... I'm gonna use it now!" I liked the "once it hits 4 stacks she has x seconds to actually use her stun" because even though she could still hold it at 3 stacks and wait, there's a massive difference between "Flash Tibbers" and "Molten Shield, Flash, Tibbers" or "Flash, Molten Shield, Tibbers"
Irelia Bot1 votesSo you mean make it have like a .75 second cast time where annie throws tibbers to a general area that tibbers and the damage will happen?
That might actually work.
Jazzy Jesus1 votes[{quoted}](name=Irelia Bot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BlsZ7edi,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-02-21T21:30:23.441+0000)
So you mean make it have like a .75 second cast time where annie throws tibbers to a general area that tibbers and the damage will happen?
That might actually work.
Upvote so Riot can see this. The cast time, however short, is genius.
Dokusei1 votes[{quoted}](name=Irelia Bot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BlsZ7edi,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-02-21T21:30:23.441+0000)
So you mean make it have like a .75 second cast time where annie throws tibbers to a general area that tibbers and the damage will happen?
That might actually work.
yes, people are over reacting in this thread thinking im trying to "gut" her.
All i want to do is see her ult coming and have the opportunity to dodge it. Not see that she has her stun up and have to play passive or else i end up dead.