I don't care how fed you are. I don't care if your MR is even 0.
That is absurdity.
#Pretty safe to say Riot's ignoring the fact that damage is blatantly too high in this game.
Keep in mind that Viktor isn't even considered very strong right now.
######Edit: E1: https://gyazo.com/9b0e80aabec580e3886eb539a3d3cfe8 E2: https://gyazo.com/1e338861fedfa7612136dfb246487001
######Also, death recap showed 2k+, but we all know how buggy that can be.
Penns5 votesI mean like... 230 base dmg with 50% scaling isnt high at all and the other 180 + 70% AP are avoidable. Why do people complain about damage like that lol.
duckarp2 votesBecause it's always easier to complain. It's how humans protect their ego... It's certainly not their fault something went wrong!
SaltyKracka3 votesWas he full build, you with low resistances?
Then it's likely you sat in his aftershock.
...Also, remember that death report isn't always accurate.
WoonStruck4 votesFirst off, read the post. Quite clearly acknowledging both parts hit, and clearly not death recap.
A single ability dealing even 2k raw damage (before resistances) is absurd. Spin it however you like.
Even if I got up to ~150 MR (leaving about 100 after pen), which would be quite the feat on Zyra (two high MR items, huge trade-off in place of damage), still taking 1k damage. From just E. That is not okay.
SaltyKracka2 votesHrm. Hard to say much about that without any information on your respective builds, but...
E ratios: 70 / 110 / 150 / 190 / 230 (+ 50% AP) + 20 / 60 / 100 / 140 / 180 (+ 70% AP)
Just looking at that...
I'd suggest that perhaps the second number was a combination of the first and second hits of his E, and not a completely independent number the way you seem to have interpreted it as.
So, perhaps 1.3k total, and even that is an incredibly bizarre result. I'd have to see more to say more.
CancerBasedGod1 votesIt's funny because with those numbers viktor would need over 1,000 AP to deal what the OP said he did. I mean he can hit a lot, but not quite that.
WoonStruck1 votes1.3k is far from bizarre. with just 560 AP, he can easily reach those numbers due to masteries.
Death recap displayed the addition of the two numbers, FYI. I would assume that both sources would not be incorrect, though I could be wrong.
Last I recall, the delay on Death Ray is too large for the numbers to stack in the same way as DoTs.
If it really did deal 2k damage, it shows something is seriously wrong with the game. Masteries multiplying too much if that's the case?
Cocho1 votes1314, before the 7.5% increase from bounty hunter is 1215
1215 - the base dmg of 410. Is 805.
So he had 604 AP. Here is what viktor built.
15 rune page
15 masteries = 30
(10 ap/level ) 180 = 210
75 = 285
80 = 365
120 = 485
35% of 485 = 655
So he was probably like level 16 when he killed zyra or like a 
down from the build the viktor made. I'm missing merciless mastery from this, but I don't know how that works in lol
If he hit him with the rest of his kit, he would've taken 1436 more.
Kinda makes me wonder why 1314 dmg is on just the laser, while 1436 dmg is on 2 Qs, using the ult, and no ticks from his ult.
SaltyKracka2 votesAftershock is slow as hell. You basically have to intentionally get hit by it.
CancerBasedGod1 votesEh. It's no MF ult with full lethality.
Catastrop1 votesUm that wasn't 2k damage mate, it's 1.3k. The first value is the first hit, and the second value is just the first hit plus damage from the second one.
Not saying that kind of damage on one ability is perfectly acceptable just because it's avoidable, but really, you're just being ridiculous here.
Salron3 votesHey buddy That's not how damage numbers show up http://i.imgur.com/lrntIwe.gifv The total damage is being shown Not 500 + 1.3k
WoonStruck2 votesExcept that doesn't make sense because math says it should be around 1.5k.
How do you go from 600 on the first hit to 900 on the second?
Do the math and you'll find your explanation doesn't make sense either.
Penns1 votes1314 was the total damage because normal magic dmg is displayed like this https://i.gyazo.com/9a1ec85437cc2c637c390773600df644.png while magic dmg over more than 1 hits has a brighter color like https://i.gyazo.com/1e338861fedfa7612136dfb246487001.png
TyrekGoldenspear2 votesHe hit you with both parts of a spell.
The second part was delayed and you had time to dodge. His damage is loaded into the back end of his spell.
If he couldn't burst a squishy with no effective MR then how would you expect him to be useful?
And I think you do care how fed someone is, becuase a fed champ is wasted gold if their gold advantage doesn't lead to a damage advantage.
WoonStruck1 votesHe hit you with both parts of a spell.
And?
The second part was delayed and you had time to dodge. His damage is loaded into the back end of his spell.
Being able to dodge something doesn't make it immune to being overtuned. What is your argument even?
If he couldn't burst a squishy with no effective MR then how would you expect him to be useful?
You mean burst a squishy with a single ability? If he used his entire kit, it would be completely understandable. You don't seem to be able to grasp what the issue is here.
And I think you do care how fed someone is, becuase a fed champ is wasted gold if their gold advantage doesn't lead to a damage advantage.
Okay, seriously stop being an idiot and pretending A SINGLE ABILITY dealing such a massive amount of damage is okay.
You do realize that he can 100-0 anyone 150 MR and 3k HP (which is actually a lot of MR) or lower in the blink of an eye using his two other abilities, right?
Are you saying defensive itemization shouldn't exist? That we should all build either 100% glass cannon or tank?
This is a problem.
TyrekGoldenspear2 votesAnd?
And don't be an idiot and get hit by a full glass cannon mage that build for full damage. Are you seriously telling me you're shocked he does damage to a squishy low health low resistance target when he builds damage?
Being able to dodge something doesn't make it immune to being overtuned. What is your argument even?
I realize that. Why don't you realize it isn't overtuned and you're just trying to make a weak argument against damage when all the cards seem to be stacked in your favor?
You mean burst a squishy with a single ability? If he used his entire kit, it would be completely understandable. You don't seem to be able to grasp what the issue is here.
And you don't seem to grasp what paper does when it gets hit by a flamethrower. If you noticed throughout this thead, people have been calling bull on your damage assessment. You overestimated the damage vastly. 1.3k to 2k damage huh? I made my OP based on the damage he really did to you, not your hyperbolic statement to drive home your neverending crusade against high damage. I agree that damage is high this season, but you don't have to lie to make a point.
Okay, seriously stop being an idiot and pretending A SINGLE ABILITY dealing such a massive amount of damage is okay. You do realize that he can 100-0 anyone 150 MR and 3k HP (which is actually a lot of MR) or lower in the blink of an eye using his two other abilities, right? Are you saying defensive itemization shouldn't exist? That we should all build either 100% glass cannon or tank? This is a problem.
Yes. I play Viktor. I am fully aware of his damage. Why don't you stop being an idiot for two seconds and realize what I did. That
The damage was grossly overestimated. 1.3k damage from an ability with a 50% AP ratio on the first hit, and 70% on the second hit is completely reasonable to someone with no resistances.
He is an AOE burst mage that built full damage and wasn't the only one attacking you. The death recap was screwed up, but you apparently noted this and put it as an afterthought despite your title clearly stating the inflated damage like it was a fact.
Your last statement was a completely stupid strawman and you know it. Did I say that defensive itemization shouldn't be a thing? No I didn't. In fact, even if there was more defensive items it wouldn't have mattered at all to this situation because as you said, you built no magic resist. Yet you are surprised you got damaged this much.
Cocho1 votesZyra doesn't receive any mr per level, she always at a flat 30.
So Viktor with 9 Mpen from runes, 8 Mpen from masteries, and 15 from boots is penetrating your 30.
So your MR was 0, and he was doing true damage lol
Its still pretty silly though lol, I do wish riot would look at viktor and the midlane as whole.
WoonStruck1 votesNumbers don't match up if you do the math.
He should have been doing more than was displayed in that case, and I acknowledge that I had 0 MR vs him.
Requiemsfire1 votesHe hit you for 1.3k not 2k damage. Also he had over 700 AP meaning full build viktor.
Cocho1 votes[deleted]
Requiemsfire1 votesYes, I know.
Karhtel1 votesI have played alot of viktor and i dont think i have ever done 2k dmg with one E before. I think you are missing something here lol Edit: if you get hit by the death ray and the aftershock you deserve to die lol
