61 Comments

CarameI Frappe2/5/2016, 6:08:53 PM30 votes

Don't forget, 90% of the time if you do Fill ... it'll lead you to getting Support.

So place Fill first, Support second and that's like a 110% chance you'll get Support everytime lol.

1000angrybees2/5/2016, 6:01:59 PM24 votes

I queued as mid first and support secondary almost exclusively for the past 10 or so games. (i haven't used the new champ select much) I always got support.

The other day I said 'fuck it I want to play support' and queued as Support main Mid secondary. Got mid.

This matchmaking system is unbelievable.

Ichinose2/5/2016, 3:15:25 PM9 votes

Second image is the same but I still got the joke :D

Lithium Rosa2/5/2016, 11:37:06 PM7 votes

Are you going to Scarborough Fair?

Ultraboomer2/6/2016, 3:52:35 AM4 votes

funny story, I selected support + fill, and someone else selected mid + support. I got mid, they got support. don't ask me how that works, because I don't understand either.

Quepha2/5/2016, 4:49:55 PM4 votes

try putting support in your primary and your other role in secondary, see if that changes how often you get the non-support role.

Xicashina2/5/2016, 4:06:15 PM3 votes

Its so true Im a support main who enjoys playing a jg game every once in a while. Like preferably I would like to play 2 sup games then a jg game. SO i was putting sup pref - jg second, and I didn't get a single jg game after 10+ games. So i switched it. I now get a jg game like one of every 5 games.

Drackolus2/6/2016, 4:31:45 AM3 votes

And sometimes, you can put support main and fill secondary, you can get NOT SUPPORT FOUR GAMES IN A ROW

RookPusher2/5/2016, 5:28:30 PM2 votes

Great name by the way, OP.

Also, your icon is creepy as hell

Dominick Destine2/5/2016, 6:14:43 PM2 votes

Yeah this is why I can't go support anymore.

Xenomancers2/5/2016, 8:40:41 PM2 votes

mid primary secondary support...[zombie-brand-mindblown]

BastionKross2/5/2016, 11:16:01 PM2 votes

Is this really a surprise to anyone? Is anyone genuinely aghast that support is the most unpopular role and thus the hardest to fill by a significant margin?

Look at teambuilder. What role generally had you waiting the longest to fill? Most likely it was support. Occasionally it might have been jungle if it got major changes recently, but support has been steadily the most hard to fill role for most groups.

Even back in season 3, when I first started, support was generally the role you got most when you were last pick. We knew back then that if a queue was ever made that let you queue by role, you'd be stuck waiting for a support a lot of the time. Go back on the old forums and look at the topics, we called that shit before teambuilder was ever a thing.

So is it really a shock that if you give matchmaking any indication that you might be willing to play support, that is where you'll probably end up? If that's blowing your mind, I don't know what to say.

The best solution to this problem is for Riot to do a rework of the support role as a whole; to make it more appealing to a wider audience of players. Exactly how you'd go about that is a debate in and of itself, but it's something that's going to need to happen for matchmaking to be more efficient at what it does.

5P4RK42/5/2016, 5:25:21 PM2 votes

Fill secondary and support secondary = support. THAT IS THE LAW.

Jbels2/5/2016, 5:12:11 PM2 votes

The really sad thing is that when you want Jungle and top, you have to wait 2 minutes before you get matched. Whenever I put support in secondary, I instantly get matched

Mr Fuzzy Nugget2/5/2016, 3:25:36 PM2 votes

How do you link a picture like that? I used to know but it's been a few seasons.

LOL Spammer2/5/2016, 4:48:40 PM2 votes

What a name. Great song.

The Loveless2/7/2016, 6:09:45 PM1 votes

Strangely, I put support first one time and got mid instead. But outside of that, I typically play with full groups.

OneExit2/6/2016, 1:04:53 AM1 votes

I main Top/ Support 12 ranked games this season, and only 1 of them I got top...

XOLeagueLife2/6/2016, 1:13:51 AM1 votes

I used to put Top/Supp, top being my most preferred. Just switched supp to mid, and now I get Top 70-80% of the time

Dairdrek2/6/2016, 1:40:54 AM1 votes

Well I put in top and jungle cause I was playing new Shen, top was primary jungle was secondary, and I got mixed results. Then me and my friend queued together and he picked adc/fill and I picked adc/support and I got adc every single time, and he got support every single time :/ matchmaking is weird now

724natsu2/6/2016, 3:34:25 AM1 votes

it took a much longer time to match up cuse no one support

Disen2/6/2016, 4:28:13 AM1 votes

And the issue compounds itself because nobody wants to load up their secondary as support as they are punished for doing so (by popping nothing but support). There needs to be some kind of incentive for queuing support, more IP perhaps.

My experience queuing with jung/supp was also about a 90% ratio in favor of supp. This to me is a broken mechanic.

High52/6/2016, 3:32:35 PM1 votes

I like support, but not all the time. I generally put a combo of top/mid in a varying orders unless I want to play not. That seems easy and quick to get whenever.

Ow12/6/2016, 3:46:47 PM1 votes

Honestly, if you don't want to support and are worried about getting it, then don't pick it for your secondary choice. I love support and i don't mind getting it at all but i understand where you guys are coming from. Braum

Ow12/6/2016, 3:47:13 PM1 votes

Honestly, if you don't want to support and are worried about getting it, then don't pick it for your secondary choice. I love support and i don't mind getting it at all but i understand where you guys are coming from. Braum

Kaipop2/6/2016, 7:15:42 PM1 votes

i've gotten mid plenty of times as mid/supp...

UNCLES LUMBAGO2/6/2016, 7:49:23 PM1 votes

It's horrible. I actually enjoy playing support but no-where near as much as I enjoy playing/as good as I am at Jungle.

I literally have to pick some bs that I'm not good at like AD/Mid/Top JUST so I can actually get jungle and not be a support main. Riot please sort this out.

ginkeq6662/6/2016, 8:43:18 PM1 votes

why even call it primary secondary? it just takes whatever is open and gives it to you

crappy match making system

i spent 30 minutes finding a match too... like all the extra time they added with their retarded "choose the champion you intend to play" crap

it should give you primary 80% of the time and secondary 20% of the time or something...

my guess is they couldn't figure out how to implement it the way it should have been due to trying to balance MMR with roles... so they put this half assed garbage in

Roselenne2/7/2016, 5:15:52 PM1 votes

Reason i'm learning a new role, tired of always getting support. Queued with a guy who had mid secondary while I had mid primary and he got it, like wtf.