Fizz's DFG compensation and design

deadlychuck·Feb 27, 2015·1 votes·228 views

Fizz feels even more disgusting than ever, i didn't think it was possible. Riot actually buffed this little sardine with his DFG compensation, he still has all of the mobility and safety he always had, though with the buff of his ult, he is a mixed damage fighter who can easily focus and kill anyone he wants with very little risk. With him building AD right now, his damage became mixed over night making him even better at killing tanks, but still equally strong at killing squishies.

Riot has been preaching about "counter-play" so much lately, but how is being as safe as this champion well designed counter-play? His design makes him strong against tanky champions, his role makes him strong against squishies, and his kit makes him nearly immune to skill shots (which is most of the CC in the game now). How is there any counter-play in this?

5 Comments

BluePolarizerFeb 27, 20151 votes

I think you just lost to an AD Fizz.

How about exploit the fact that he's exclusively melee and has crap waveclear in lane and has slow clears in the jungle?

I mean, shit, AD Fizz is just a slightly more slippery but lower sustained damage, less tanky Jax or Master Yi. Hell he's not even as slippery as Master Yi in teamfights.

deadlychuckFeb 27, 20151 votes

More like i've lost multiple fights to AD fizz on multiple champions despite being ahead of him. He just doesn't have any cut and dry counter-play, you have to simply over power him and he runs at which point you probably can't catch him, or you lose and die.

BluePolarizerFeb 27, 20151 votes

I mean, if you play an out of meta melee, theres gonna be alot of other melees that you either overpower then they run away, or you lose and die. Jax, Lee Sin, Zed, Master Yi, Udyr, Vi and J4 all come to mind. Its not just AD Fizz.

I mean, hell, J4 has so much damage once he gets hydra that he can save flag combo for an escape and just win with R/Hydra. Vi can win with just R and autos. Jax can win with just autoattacking then ward hop away if he starts losing.

AD Fizz is simply on-par with other good solo queue melees right now.

deadlychuckFeb 27, 20151 votes

So... basically riot is further emphasizing mobility and removing the cost of mistakes, by the design of the champions. Champions which can escape on a whim.

BluePolarizerFeb 27, 20151 votes

basically yes. AD Fizz is also nowhere near as much cancer as Riven is, since at least AD Fizz has no waveclear and is squishy until his tank items which is after his damage items. Haven't you noticed that basically anything you say about AD Fizz, you can also say about Riven?

Also note that AD Fizz can't itemize penetration.