Sions health stacks

Critmaster Garen·Dec 29, 2015·45 votes·1,957 views

why dont they have a buff indicator like other stack abilities? i think he should get one. at the very least for the sake of consistency.

edit.: also veigars ap stacks.

33 Comments

NarasimhaDec 29, 20154 votes

Pretty sure only Nasus and Thresh have the stack capabality. Nasus so you can see how farmed his Q is, and Thresh so you can roughly guess how much his E hurts. Veigar and Sion both get buffs right to their stats, so you can just look at them to see how they're doing.

RalanrDec 29, 20157 votes

Technically Veigar and Sion have stack abilities, but yes they just increase their stats.

Critmaster GarenDec 29, 20154 votes

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Technically Veigar and Sion have stack abilities, but yes they just increase their stats.

champions with stack abilities.

Nasus Garen Sion Veigar Thresh Kindred

if im not mistaken, the only ones who dont have a buff indicator for those stacks are sion and veigar. good, that you mention it.

edit.: Bard Cassiopeia Gangplank Chogath added due to popular demand. those also have buff indicators for their stacks.

RalanrDec 29, 20152 votes

Garen has a stack ability with an indicator?

Critmaster GarenDec 29, 20152 votes

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Garen has a stack ability with an indicator?

his w passive. he gains 0.5 armor and mr for killing a unit. its capped at 30 armor and mr, but he has a buff indicator for it.

edit.: .25 armor/mr on summoners rift. .5 on the howling abyss.

Anu3isIIDec 29, 20154 votes

The new bonus Armor/Magic Resist passive from Garen's W is based on stacks per kills(minions, champions and monsters I think).

It has a limit , but it kinda takes some time to get all the stacks.

Critmaster GarenDec 29, 20154 votes

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The new bonus Armor/Magic Resist passive from Garen's W is based on stacks per kills(minions, champions and monsters I think).

It has a limit , but it kinda takes some time to get all the stacks.

new/old :)

this was actually the original mechanic when garen was first released. with his first rework they changed it to a 20% resistance bonus. with his recent rework they changed it back.

i definitely prefer the stack mechanic, as it allows him more freedom in his item builds. he isnt tied to building high resist items to make the w passive useful.

EnderizedDec 29, 20151 votes

i didnt even knew that he had that stacking mechanism before O-o

My Waifu VanillaDec 29, 20151 votes

Yup they changed it like 3 (?) years ago when they have him a VU and a minor game play update.

EnderizedDec 29, 20151 votes

Well- i've never played him pre his small rework x)

Critmaster GarenDec 29, 20151 votes

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Yup they changed it like 3 (?) years ago when they have him a VU and a minor game play update.

the vu came much later. it was, i think just at the end of season 2 when he got his mini rework that first changed his w passive.

i definitely remember that it was still before cleaver was reworked from a flat armor pen/ad/attack speed item to an ad caster/bruiser item.

Anu3isIIDec 29, 20151 votes

I didn't know that xD

Yes , it is a much better mechanic , and with the new items , he can do almost everything he wants (except DFGaren... RIP in Pepperonis).

Pretty cool fact that Riot reevaluated an older idea of his kit :D

BârdDec 30, 20152 votes

Bard

Critmaster GarenDec 30, 20152 votes

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oops.

though he has an indicator aswell.

Xenos11111Dec 30, 20151 votes

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champions with stack abilities.

if im not mistaken, the only ones who dont have a buff indicator for those stacks are sion and veigar. good, that you mention it.

If you're gonna count Garen who has a hard cap on his stacking, you might as well count Cassiopeia and Chogath as well.

Critmaster GarenDec 30, 20151 votes

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If you're gonna count Garen who has a hard cap on his stacking, you might as well count and as well.

ok, fine. srry i forgot some champs.

but my point remains valid, as cho and cass and bard also have indicators for their stacks.

if were super technical, Gangplank aswell.

MyTeamIsAwsomeDec 30, 20151 votes

Bard item 3070

TaoistMasterDec 30, 20151 votes

Rengar ?

Critmaster GarenDec 30, 20151 votes

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?

wait, does he still have that? i thought the bonetooth neclace was removed with one of his reworks.

TaoistMasterDec 30, 20151 votes

doesn't he still get "trophys" or something.

I am not sure.. that is why i put the "?"

MetalGearTeemuDec 30, 20151 votes

Bonetooth was moved to his trinket slot at some point I think. it still stacks

Critmaster GarenDec 30, 20151 votes

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Bonetooth was moved to his trinket slot at some point I think. it still stacks

but i cant find it on the item page anymore. you can check the item button here aswell and seach for the trinkets. theyre still listed, while the neclace isnt. and even viktors hex core is there.

Xenos11111Dec 30, 20151 votes

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Pretty sure only Nasus and Thresh have the stack capabality. Nasus so you can see how farmed his Q is, and Thresh so you can roughly guess how much his E hurts. Veigar and Sion both get buffs right to their stats, so you can just look at them to see how they're doing.

You forgot Bard and Kindred

Critmaster GarenDec 30, 20151 votes

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Pretty sure only Nasus and Thresh have the stack capabality. Nasus so you can see how farmed his Q is, and Thresh so you can roughly guess how much his E hurts. Veigar and Sion both get buffs right to their stats, so you can just look at them to see how they're doing.

didnt even see this post. you could say the same for thresh, garen, cho etc. technically you could just look at their stats. they still get indicators.

RalanrDec 29, 20153 votes

You can see how much you stacked in the ability description.

EnderizedDec 29, 20153 votes

i guess he mans the visual buff as ie Nasus has, so enemys can see how much bonus HP he gets from where ^^

RalanrDec 29, 20151 votes

I'm a noob...how can we do that?

My Waifu VanillaDec 29, 20151 votes

When you click Nasus/Kindred/Thresh their stacks are in the top left under their health bar and all that stuff where all the other buffs usually go.

RalanrDec 29, 20151 votes

Ty.

MasterVidallisDec 29, 20151 votes

If only Sion had a bar on top of his head that kept track of his health...

DrNovaDec 31, 20153 votes

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If only Sion had a bar on top of his head that kept track of his health...

The point, you dense knucklehead, is op would like to know via a buff indicator how much EXTRA he has stacked. Looking at health bar doesn't show that

SpoofghoulDec 30, 20151 votes

Since Rito doesn't like Sions W shield i thought we would rework it into a totally new ability called Playfull Zombiebomb

Playfull First Cast: Sion hops onto his axe towards the target location, becoming untargetable for 0.75 seconds, before smashing into the ground below him, dealing magic damage to nearby enemies and knocking them up for 0,75 seconds.

Magic Damage: 70 / 120 / 170 / 220 / 270 (+ 25% bonus hp)

Zombiebomb Second Cast: Sion immediately hops off his axe towards the target location, dealing magic damage to nearby enemies and knocking them up for 0,75 seconds.

Xenos11111Dec 31, 20151 votes

Rather than a stack buff indicator, I would prefer if Riot just buffed him though.