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Can we give Ashe a better passive now? Suggestion included.

A Palmtop Tiger·2/23/2015, 9:16:32 AM·3 votes·846 views

I know for a fact that this has been brought up time and time again. But as an ADC main who enjoys playing Ashe from time to time I find her passive clunky and weird. In addition with the introduction of mobility creep Ashe is a bit outdated and underwhelming currently.

Pros and Cons of her current passive.
Pros: That crit on the first auto can win your lane.
Can proc extra damage off item 3087 more easily Can give a faster/stronger leash to jungler Cons: Promotes not attacking in order to gain crit stacks(ironically Ashe has one of the best attk speed gains per level)

My suggestion. Make Ashe's passive also give crit stacks when killing a minion or enemy champion. In addition, Ashe's crit from her passive does not proc off common enemy minions.(If Ashe crits a minion with 100 crit stacks they will not be consumed) For example if Ashe's passive has stacked 20 Crit Chance Stacks and Ashe attacks a minion the stacks will stop climbing and she will lose her continual gain of crit chance. However, if Ashe successfully kills the minion then she will gain X amount of crit chance.

This suggestion would allow Ashe players to CS comfortably and could encourage building towards 100 crit stacks without worrying about wasting a crit on a minion.

While this is a buff to her laning phase it isn't much of a buff outside of laning where minion waves are cleared quickly by your team and isn't much of a buff in teamfighting or skirmishes either.

What do you think? Is this too weak or too much of a buff to Ashe passive?

7 Comments

mjack332/23/2015, 9:30:29 AM1 votes

Ashe's passive would actually be better as is. If you wanted to buff it, you would make it so that she can't critical hit a minion with her passive and only waste all the stacks on a champion. Everything else would remain the same.

Edit: Misread.

:( I think she should still have to give something up to build the stacks. I mean..... it's not like it's that hard to build stacks anyways between minion waves.

Zertryx2/23/2015, 11:54:14 AM1 votes

what they should do is swap her E's Passive and Passive and then make it so it doesn't waste on minions and or make it unavailable if the E is on cool down (this way it can be given more power as you both have to put a point in it to get it and it has 5 levels)

Buffing it too much might actually make her ridiculously good and then they would just nerf other things about her which atm i think the rest of her kit is in a pretty good spot

ElysMustache2/23/2015, 12:06:56 PM1 votes

I think a better change that was suggested for her was to allow her E to stack two charges, and to make it a pass-through skillshot that does 1 true damage, and applies on-hit affects.

Moniky2/23/2015, 4:59:43 PM1 votes

Or we could make it somewhat like caits passive, but make it around 8 AA and be on a 5 second timer

Jetridder112/23/2015, 5:55:26 PM1 votes

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I find her passive clunky and weird.

Oh really? An adc being rewarded for not csing or attacking/punished for csing or attacking? And you think that's weird? I think it's just downright stupid.