After seeing Nunu's rework giving him viable ganks, I feel like Shyvana should be reworked as well

PapaGreg21··2 votes·1,379 views

Since afk farming is something that Riot wants to get away from, and since the jungle gives awful experience now, I would like to see Shyvana's kit get changed in a way that she can become more of an active jungler. Her play rate has gotten pretty low since the scuttle changes and I think she just doesn't fit into this meta very well anymore. Not to say she is weak, but by design her best play style is to actually avoid most fights and pressure objectives hard which in today's game you need to be actively involved in your lanes if you want to give yourself the best chance of succeeding. I think most Shyvana mains would agree that she could use some modernization in her kit to give her a chance to be as viable as some of the other junglers.

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SoundChaosDebug2 votes

i feel you are wrong

Moody P2 votes

pls stop homogenizing the roster

chipndip11 votes

Nunu's still the best tank for securing objectives. Giving him ACTUAL ganks isn't "homogenizing" anything.

Moody P1 votes

Generic CC bot from buff tank who sapped AS

sad

Ætheist1 votes

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Generic CC bot from buff tank who sapped AS

sad

They moved the "buff" part to his passive, though, and I really doubt many people actually miss Nunu having Ice Blast. It had to be in the top 10 most annoying abilities in the game to be hit by (incidentally Nasus' Wither probably ranks up there too).

chipndip11 votes

They still buff. It's on their passive and it automatically goes to the person with the highest attack speed.

His clear niche is that he's strong for taking objectives. Turrets, dragons, barons, whatever. He enables faster clears of objectives.

Moody P1 votes

1 buff you have no choice on who it goes to vs original 3 buffs and two AS debuffs

Chogath is fantastic for objectives, too

Ætheist1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BM10PQG9,comment-id=00010000000000010000,timestamp=2018-10-19T01:50:45.078+0000)

1 buff you have no choice on who it goes to vs original 3 buffs and two AS debuffs

Chogath is fantastic for objectives, too

What do you mean 3 buffs? Nunu's only ally buff was Blood Boil.

Moody P1 votes

blood boil buffed AP, AS and MS

new one only grants attack speed and MS

but current buff still gives you a) worse stats and b) no control on who it goes to, which is bad for balance and decision making

Ætheist1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BM10PQG9,comment-id=0001000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-19T01:58:22.933+0000)

blood boil buffed AP, AS and MS

new one only grants attack speed and MS

but current buff still gives you a) worse stats and b) no control on who it goes to, which is bad for balance and decision making

Blood Boil didn't grant AP until fairly recently, which they only tacked on to try and make Nunu more appealing.

All it really got used for was boosting Karthus ults when funnel strats were a thing.

chipndip11 votes

The old one made the stupid Karthus global 1-shot a thing.

Like, overloading a useless ability until it isn't so useless just by virtue of shoving a shit ton of shit into it doesn't make it a well designed ability, nor does it make old Nunu's kit any actual good. What type of tank just sits there and slows people all day in today's League of Legends?

Ætheist2 votes

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What type of tank just sits there and slows people all day in today's League of Legends?

Nautilus

chipndip11 votes

He has 3 rounds of hard cc...

Moody P1 votes

none, this is why all new tanks are toxic and completely deserve to be in the spot they're in

chipndip11 votes

News flash: The year is 2018, not 2012. If you want a more classic style of MOBA to play, DotA exists.

Moody P1 votes

i don't think there's a tank in dota that operates entirely on slows

in fact they manage to be plenty varied despite mostly relying on CC and damage

PapaGreg211 votes

Ridiculous comment. Wanting a jungler to be able to gank isn't exactly making her the same as everybody else. It's like asking for an ADC to do damage

Oleandervine1 votes

Shyvana has ganking capability in her W and her R.

Killer of Night91 votes

I fell that her passive need a rework again. 5 armor and mr doesn't feel satisfying for a farming champ and udyr probably it's a totally better version of shyvana at ll.

Binding Eclipse1 votes

I wish they would change her passive up a bit, it's just a little...meh.

Imagine if killing dragons scaled your fury generation instead of just giving some piddly defensive stats. Rack up enough drakes, and you'll be almost perma-dragon'd. Would probably need to shave off a good bit of her offensive utility when in the form, but I'm sure there's a balance that could be struck.

daydreams

Alzon3 votes

This is a new one. Would help AP Shyvana but hinder her standard builds, since she won’t have a dash.

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