People telling adc players LEARN TO KITE HECA.

dominusx··100 votes·5,911 views

Seriously. just.. just kermit lmfao i hate adc players with a passion but a TANK fucking TANK that does 70% of your hp with a single combo and 700move speed ISNT KITEABLE NOR HAS COUNTERPLAY. Heca procing my steraks gage faster than 4item draven. like LOL. please. kill your...snake

166 Comments

ZT Xperimentor54 votes

You think hecarim is a tank? Hold on stop the presses!

ForgiveColour4 votes

Yeah he is one and when he has only one damage item and rest tank items and still do massive damage theres a problem.

But nice try defending tanks LUL

ZT Xperimentor47 votes

First, he's a bruiser having a combination of; damage, mobility, durability, and crowd control. Tanks only have two, see alistar. And one damage item, yet you refuse to acknowledge which one huh? It's the triforce, which has been abusable for years by anyone with low cooldown auto-attack resets, such as jax; and why it's changed nearly every season.

ForgiveColour4 votes

Nice downvoted LUL ARAM PLAYER LUL

Lmao go check out the definition of tank by rito and you can see hecarim listed under there. Good try though with your trash logic and LUL WTF what kind of argument is they build triforce it makes them broken so just deal with it????

Well i guess hec kinda sucks in aram? Play the real game before you talk about balance ROFL

Ralanr31 votes

{quoted}

Nice downvoted LUL ARAM PLAYER LUL

Lmao go check out the definition of tank by rito and you can see hecarim listed under there. Good try though with your trash logic and LUL WTF what kind of argument is they build triforce it makes them broken so just deal with it????

Well i guess hec kinda sucks in aram? Play the real game before you talk about balance ROFL

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/3A5uuBw7-champion-subclass-list

He's listed as a diver. Fighter subclass.

Hecarim is fucking dumb, but he's not a tank.

Ralanr32 votes

Outdated information. But if it proves your point I guess anything works for you.

ForgiveColour3 votes

"Outdated"

More like you are being delusional and denying the fact

Maligaro Spike16 votes

you know tank was a generic term and riot made the subclass list for categorize all champs better?

Also Hecarim s role isnt to tank, he cant dish out cc like Sejuani or Nautilus and doesnt nearly have the durability both of them have, also by your logic we can call Fiora and MasterYi tanks since they build some defense at some point lul

ForgiveColour3 votes

hec isnt tanky

Aight LUL

Maligaro Spike16 votes

wut i never said that wtf are you smoking

Anidan3 votes

To be fair, Sejuani isn't naturally very bulky either, she just has a lot of CC she can apply repeatedly and damage over time, along with having decent bases but "eh" scalings for her damage so she's built tanky. Unlike Nautilus and Leona who have tanking steroids, she's not naturally bulky - she has to consciously build that way.

Not to say that she's not a tank or that Heca is one, because neither of those are true, just pointing that out.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

Just to be correct: Sejuani actually has a tank steroid, too: her passive.

Ratbert25 votes

Last edit was almost 2 years ago. There have been numerous changes to hec and the game since then.

Oh and trusting a third party website that anyone can edit over an official rioter's post + devblog?? Do you trust wikipedia over scientific articles too?

EndlessSorcerer22 votes

Clearly, they are just trusting any source which agrees with them.

ForgiveColour2 votes

"Numerous changes to hec"

LUL

DrCyanide9 votes

Hecarim was defined as a Primary Fighter, Secondary Tank in April 2012.

Hecarim has been updated in 25 patch notes since then.

In May 2016 Riot, realizing that many of their old role conventions weren't very accurate, updated his classification to be "Diver", a classification shared with Vi, Nocturne, Xin Zhao and others.

November 2016 Riot released their Open Beta of the new client. While this update does not display the new classifications, it did remove the secondary classification, thus officially removing Hecarim's "Tank" status.

AgeOfTheMage1 votes

well, riot also considers syndra a support

Ariel the Cruel3 votes

Any mage with a stun is a support these days.

Valeckserai4 votes

Yeah... that list also has Vlad as a tank. Totally legit.

item 3152 item 3158 item 3116 item 3157 item 3065 item 3151 Tons of resistances, totally a tank.

ForgiveColour1 votes

Its not like his kit allows him to play like a normal bronze animal and tank damage them heal back up

mikemcparty9 votes

You are losing.

ForgiveColour1 votes

not enough to be a bronze LUL

Photos of Ghosts4 votes

I hope you never engage in politics, with that inability to realise you didn't get a single thing right.

ForgiveColour1 votes

Implying politics is as simple as rock paper scissors LUL

EU BRAIN LUL

Hows those rapefugee going for you?

Photos of Ghosts3 votes

And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is the kind of person ignorant and blind enough to drink up all the neonazi hoaxes about those poor people fleeing wars we imperialists created in their homelands.

Photos of Ghosts2 votes

Liberal? me? Lol. LIberals are your accomplices, they hide actual issues like imperialism by pretending to side with the people. Welcome to the rest of the world, where politics isn't limited to just two fascist parties.

Also who cares about "genders"? That's bullshit, what matters is that we westerners have been destroying the rest of the world for centuries and IT NEEDS TO STOP.

Photos of Ghosts2 votes

Mike, I downvoted you because I saw it as a reply to me, but maybe it was due to the limit of discussion view and you actually were talking to ybuR... in that case I apologize.

GULAG 4 U3 votes

and since hecarim is broken I'll try to main him and enjoy some freelo even if he's boring as fuck to play xd

Blåbæret1 votes

{quoted}

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/3A5uuBw7-champion-subclass-list

He's listed as a diver. Fighter subclass.

Hecarim is fucking dumb, but he's not a tank.

He's a tank because that's effectively the way he plays and is being built. He has CC and tankiness. Technically you could say Naut is also a diver because of his hook, so he's not a tank then. Diana's classified as a diver, but has nowhere near the same playstyle as Heca. Heca has CC, tankiness, stickiness and the list goes on. Riot classification doesn't make much sense when it all comes down to it.

TLDR; Heca is a tank.

Ralanr6 votes

Nautilus is a vanguard because of his hook and having a bunch of other CC. He's also AoE. Hecarim is single targeted especially with his stun.

And both Hecarim and Diana have the same core playstyles of diving into the backline and trying to get a kill while surviving off their durability.

As annoying as it is, Hecarim is supposed to kill people. He's a fighter.

Blåbæret1 votes

{quoted}

Nautilus is a vanguard because of his hook and having a bunch of other CC. He's also AoE. Hecarim is single targeted especially with his stun.

And both Hecarim and Diana have the same core playstyles of diving into the backline and trying to get a kill while surviving off their durability.

As annoying as it is, Hecarim is supposed to kill people. He's a fighter.

Yah, that'd be fine if he actually built damage items.

Ralanr5 votes

He doesn't need to because he gets AD from his MS. That's why he can get away with these builds easier than other people.

Blåbæret3 votes

{quoted}

He doesn't need to because he gets AD from his MS. That's why he can get away with these builds easier than other people.

And that is an issue that needs to be fixed.

Ralanr2 votes

Agreed.

Incarceration1 votes

He just has mobility. All tanks have damage, durability, and crowd control.

ZT Xperimentor8 votes

Well technically everyone has damage, I'm talking significant damage that can chunk anyone. Most frequently it's tanks that get their damage nerfed, just look at nautilus, leona, sejuani, & poppy.

Incarceration1 votes

Chogath Malphite Maokai Skarner Zac Volibear Warwick Thresh Sion Singed RekSai Rammus

LUL

ZT Xperimentor4 votes

For clarification, conditional damage. Some examples would be chogath, sion & tahm.

Maligaro Spike6 votes

Chogath full tank doesnt do all that damage

Malphite scales with armor but pays by lacking hard cc or mobility outside of ult

Maokai well hes broken lul

Skarner Volibear juggernauts so supposed to have damage in exchange of mobility

Zac his damage is pretty low to be honest as tank

Warwick not a tank mostly a bruiser

Thresh wut

Sion very conditional damage that also falls off

Singed not a true tank tho

RekSai she wasnt mean to be a tank in the first place

Rammus hes kinda supposed to be good at rekting adcs

Pay attention, for tank i mean a champ who builds next to 0 offense, for example Zac with item 1414 and item 3152 dishes out good damage but isnt a tank anymore but more of a diver and later in the game will be prone to getting blown up, also early/mid game all tanks that arent support got relevant damage because otherwise they would be forced to be useless in lane or be played as support

Incarceration1 votes

Thresh with souls can do 400 damage against a squishy. You basically need about 80, I think. Cho'gath can one shot a squishy with her full combo. Zac + Sunfire Cape.

All of the champions I listed basically build 0-1 offensive items.

[zombie-brand-clap]

Maligaro Spike7 votes

Thresh with 80 souls but 0 mpen and no actual damage outside of his emp auto isnt going to do anything to a carry who isnt extremely behind, no one ever complained about thresh having super high damage or soloing people

youre actually right cho got decent damage early/mid game but it really falls off hard later on, also his Q is super easy to dodge and hes completely immobile so is justifiable

Zac with sunfire doesnt deal OP damage but just outtank you but it actually requires 5+ seconds for a zac to kill an ADC with sunfire(actually cinderhulk) + ult which is completely fine

Troll for Trump2 votes

having super high damage or soloing people

He did on release, where he could go into any lane and do fine, but got nerfed quickly

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

That's because he was a support in name only. By his own admission, CT designed Thresh to be effective in/at everything.

Troll for Trump2 votes

CT's overloaded designs, in the name of "versatility"

Edgy Katana Man1 votes

Isn't Hecarim technically in the juggernaut class with Darius and Garen?

Atanchan4 votes

I think he's too mobile for that, though he might be secondary Juggernaut considering his mobility is extremely burst and he's actually kinda vulnerable to kiting if his target survives his initial couple seconds on them.

ZT Xperimentor2 votes

A juggernaut is an immobile, highly durable, yet very dangerous champion. Often with some kind of conditional spike damage.

Solidarius2 votes

I agree

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