it's clear that fizz and fizz players know he is meant to be a bruiser so why are we trying to prevent it?
AP ratios shifted to total AD
base AD now 60-140
W now cleaves if activated on a fully charged enemy; also scales with his health
E only has one hop but half the cooldown and the same damage
R does % health true damage scaling with his HP
is the real end game of fizz. embrace it, riot.
Chibi Bronzlife4 votesFizz is a highly mobile assassin, which does not fit the construct of the juggernauts such as Naut, Sion, or even Morde. Juggernauts are the slower moving but deadly champions that will kill you if they stay on you, but are easily kited. Fizz is not easily kited. That is why he is not a juggernaut.
Big Lincoln2 votesms reduced to 325
solved
Chibi Bronzlife3 votesit's not the movespeed, it's the fact that Fizz has 2 mobile abilities. A dash and a jump. Not to mention no Juggernaut can 1 combo a target with the amount of burst that Fizz has, even the burst from Morde takes time due to having to wait for the enhanced auto attacks to hit.
Penns2 votesnah bruh im assassin overlord not tank filth hehe
Big Lincoln2 votestriforce is too high-IQ of an item for tank scrubs to buy lol
join the bruiser ubermensch it is your destiny
Penns2 votessounds good 2 me m8 if riot wont let assassin overlord fizz be good ill switch sides hehe xd
Big Lincoln2 voteshttps://i2.wp.com/polyglottutor.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/brain-universe.jpg?resize=350%2C261
when u become bruiser ubermensch
Sad Tyrant1 votesbut I build Triforce and Steraks on 
Big Lincoln1 votession is a juggernaut it's literally in his title
Sukishoo1 votesActually, he is classed as a Vanguard http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/taking-another-look-subclasses because of his power in initiate fights.
Chibi Bronzlife1 votesI disagree with his classification from Riot, but that's my own personal opinion. However the entirety of the original point of this thread is terrible.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesya dont you know sion is a TANK and that is why he is strong
Chibi Bronzlife1 votesSion should be classified as a juggernaut, but like I said before that is a different debate for a different thread. I understand the basics of why he is listed under vanguards, but his style fits so much easier into the juggernaut playstyle.
Big Lincoln1 votesthen change him to the undead tank
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesi want rito and people alike realize DR MUNDO should be a tank and reworked accordingly
Sukishoo2 votesfizz should be a juggernaut
Said no one ever.
xxxMadLionxxx1 votesthis has cc and mobility.
Big Lincoln2 votes
Chibi Bronzlife1 votesIllaoi has no mobility, cc is common in juggernauts as a means to stay on targets, but their lack of overall mobility is a key defining point in juggernauts as a class.
Big Lincoln2 voteshas a dash tho
Chibi Bronzlife1 voteshas one of the shortest jumps in the game, not a dash. It's an empowered auto with slightly larger range. Shorter than nearly all adc attack ranges.
Jinzo Torrance1 votesSo Darius has a dash too? LUL
Big Lincoln1 votesyes
zacktootall1 votescuz both fizz and fizz mains can go and get deleted from the internet
Sahn Uzal1 votesI mean, if you said Diver, you'd make some sense. But Juggernaut? Wut
Big Lincoln1 votesdivers are just closeted tanks
Sahn Uzal1 votesThis is the Big Lincoln we know and love.
