I'm seeing all these complaints about reworked Akali

Jefftiffy··2 votes·943 views

I honestly will say new Akali isn't as bad as everyone as making her out to be. The biggest complaint is the shroud and dashes.

  1. She will have less dashes with no resets and a slower travel time than she has now so that's a big plus and anyone who says otherwise is beyond dumb.
  2. Her shroud reset can only be extended by her leaving the shroud and it just gets further away the longer its out. Meaning she goes further away from the target the longer its out and leaving the shroud heavily reveals her to allow you to fight back and even under tower you can still see her and hit her with skill shots. And if she tries to do it under tower without a minion wave she will eat a shot every time she pops out and she already doesn't have stealth basically.
  3. Her trading pattern is already really bad with the rework is only ever good when she backflips or ults. Saying she is going to be use the passive for the second proc after the first without some kind of aid is putting her in a vacuum expecting ideal circumstances.

Seriously I can look at this champ and tell it can easily be balanced compared to old her. Unlike a certain champ I knew who would always be a balance nightmare on release (Zoe). Mostly due to her almost near identical playstyle to old Q for 1.5k+ damage Nidalee in the past.

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Jamaree2 votes

I'm gonna wait to see how it goes, that new shroud is gonna be dumb sure, but she is already better for the game because now she isn't JUST a stat check.

Primaquarius1 votes

Im pretty sure theyre just crying about her Shroud being the first Absolute Stealth in the game. Tower dives everywhere

Vlada Cut1 votes

I like new Akali a LOT. I actually even make her my first mid assasin main. Or do all sorts of crazy stuff with her on top lane. Oh how much I love this rework. [sg-jinx]

Pika Fox1 votes

Nidalee wasnt an issue because of her Q. She was an issue because she had all this mobility she couldnt be punished while she tossed Qs at you under tower. She had poke, sustain and mobility. Stop comparing zoe to her. Theyre not comparable.

Jefftiffy1 votes

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Nidalee wasnt an issue because of her Q. She was an issue because she had all this mobility she couldnt be punished while she tossed Qs at you under tower. She had poke, sustain and mobility. Stop comparing zoe to her. Theyre not comparable.

They are exactly comparable because they do the exact same thing. Chunk the shit out of you from a super safe distance and disengage if you go in. Zoe's W is the most overlooked ability in the game. The damn thing is the only reason she's broken and the pros know it, but the problem is if you nerf it too much then she falls into old nidalee territory of all upfront damage and nothing to finish them off but is good at running.

You probably also think old nidalee was OP because she could run away. The reason she was OP was she could throw a 2k damage spear at you from max range and if you managed to get to her she could just jump away, but she relied on that 2k damage spear as her crutch you take away either her damage or her mobility and she was garbage. The same way Zoe relies on her E Q combo to nuke using her W as the failsafe or extra utility.

Pika Fox1 votes

No, theyre not the same. Zoe has exactly 0 mobility. If she fails her spells or gets caught out she has 0 escape potential in her kit. Nid was broken because she could seige towers and was unpunishable as she had more mobility than anyone else in the game, and any damage she did take would just be healed back up. Zoe is incapable of doing so.

Jefftiffy1 votes

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No, theyre not the same. Zoe has exactly 0 mobility. If she fails her spells or gets caught out she has 0 escape potential in her kit. Nid was broken because she could seige towers and was unpunishable as she had more mobility than anyone else in the game, and any damage she did take would just be healed back up. Zoe is incapable of doing so.

0 mobility... Then wtf is her W everyone runs flash for the most part meaning she has at least 4 chances to use flash and even gives her MS and it can drop from minions and procs off her own summoners. And her ult can be used as mobility. And nid didn't have a lot more mobility than everyone else who was strong. I can name a few off the top LeeSin Leblanc Yasuo Kassadin Hecarim Katarina MasterYi Shaco Rengar.

Pika Fox1 votes

In order to get flash on W, you either needed to get lucky, last hit a creep, get flash to drop, and have your opponent let you grab it, or have them use it and pick it up. If they flash offensively, you arent grabbing that flash.

None of those champs have more mobility than nid. Nid had far more than even kassadin. Movespeed in brush + cougar jump was insane for the time, even yi + ult couldnt keep up. Yas didnt exist at the time either.

Jefftiffy1 votes

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In order to get flash on W, you either needed to get lucky, last hit a creep, get flash to drop, and have your opponent let you grab it, or have them use it and pick it up. If they flash offensively, you arent grabbing that flash.

None of those champs have more mobility than nid. Nid had far more than even kassadin. Movespeed in brush + cougar jump was insane for the time, even yi + ult couldnt keep up. Yas didnt exist at the time either.

He actually did. She was nerfed right after he came into the game.

Yasuo release: https://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/V3.15

Nidalee rework: https://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/V4.10

I remember solely because Yasuo was one of the hardest counters to Nidalee.

Pika Fox1 votes

Yasuo requires a target to dash to, nidalees movement is brush and anywhere. Yas isnt more mobile than nid. Its physically impossible. Minion waves arent all over the map.

Ontop of that, nid was nerfed well before her rework. She was nerfed entirely because of hotshotgg

Colton1471 votes

I agree; revert Nidalee's spear damage.

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