AD/Tank MS items are ridiculous...

Lithium Rosa··2 votes·368 views

Today I was playin Elise and I haditem 3116 item 1320 + speed form MS buff+ 2 built in dashes againstDarius who is known for lacking of mobility Guess what, I got kited because this son of a bitch has 500+ MS with a singleitem 3071 , not even mention item 3512 anditem 3742

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CoolKnightST2 votes

Darius outscales Elise pretty hard lategame. His damage is nothing compaired with Elise. If you are going close combat against him you will lose that battle. The item 3111 won't help a dam thing against a Darius. You have some health from item 3116 but you will still remain dam squishy. Armor is the only viable thing that can help against a Darius. You sure picked the right champion to fight him...

I don't see any scenario where you would be able to 1v1 a Darius. The best thing you can do is kit him out. WIth item 3742, this will become more difficult. While item 3512 pulls him more towards the splitpush/siege scenario.

I assume he got pretty fed so in your case you should have been peeling for your adc. You root could prevent the Darius for been able to reach your backline. Elise is a champion that is known for her early game pressure and decent utility and scaling. In your case you should have utilize her utility more. Kite back when you see the Darius while trying to create picks against their squishies. Elise is really strong on catching enemies that are out of position. You clearly put way to many attention to the Darius.

Lithium Rosa1 votes

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Darius outscales Elise pretty hard lategame. His damage is nothing compaired with Elise. If you are going close combat against him you will lose that battle. The item 3111 won't help a dam thing against a Darius. You have some health from item 3116 but you will still remain dam squishy. Armor is the only viable thing that can help against a Darius. You sure picked the right champion to fight him...

I don't see any scenario where you would be able to 1v1 a Darius. The best thing you can do is kit him out. WIth item 3742, this will become more difficult. While item 3512 pulls him more towards the splitpush/siege scenario.

I assume he got pretty fed so in your case you should have been peeling for your adc. You root could prevent the Darius for been able to reach your backline. Elise is a champion that is known for her early game pressure and decent utility and scaling. In your case you should have utilize her utility more. Kite back when you see the Darius while trying to create picks against their squishies. Elise is really strong on catching enemies that are out of position. You clearly put way to many attention to the Darius.

Did you even read my thread.. Im not talking about winning fight or damage trading or anything that makes sense, the only thing I cared about is I got kited. I dont mind being outdamaged or something but I was unable to hit him most of the time, that's what this thread is about. Thanks for your guide but that was a normal and I wasn't trying hard, I know how to play. Can we focus on the kiting part

Irelia Bot2 votes

My stance on Dead mans is that it should have half the max current movement speed but slightly higher Armor and Health to make up for it. 60 movements speed is too much map pressure from a single item.

Raptor cloak could also use some kind of nerf to perhaps half of the current point runner max movement speed (10% instead of 20%). Or perhaps make it have a base 5% that can max out at 10% when near turrets making it less about being supper good for split pushing and a little better rounded for team fights as well.

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