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5 people i feel are OP in order (medium salt level.)

koshkyra·Jun 10, 2017·7 votes·404 views

Short PSA: This is merely an opinion. I am not insisting that my opinion is correct. I am not insisting that anyone elses opinion is wrong. This is merely mine and is not something to take too seriously.

#5: Olaf

Olaf is just ridiculously OP and honestly always has been. He does a ridiculous amount of damage, is ridiculously tanky, and cant even be CC'd to stop him. I have no clue how anyone fights this busted champ. Games are unwinnable against him.

#4: Amumu

No, this wont be all tanks. But seriously, what was Riot thinking with amumu. Sustained damage, burst damage, CC, tankiness, mobility, utility, wtf.

#3: Fizz

"Harass him early"

Okay, so fizz farms under turret till level 6 and then 100-0s you with one combo. He has literally more cc than half of the champion roster. Untargetability on a potential 6 second cooldown also. Riot please, stop with this champion. Its been enough.

#2: Nasus

Even if you farm-starve him during laning. Even if you win laning. He will find a way to farm himself back into the game and end up two-shotting anyone he can. And what the hell is that slow? Its like 50% for 5 seconds. HOW DO YOU ESCAPE THAT.

#1: Cho'Gath

Gets rewarded for building tanky. And what's that reward? 1.5k plus true damage to an enemy with a point and click ability. This is all i have to say.

11 Comments

Scary DoorJun 10, 20173 votes

5 - No. 4 - No. 3 - Yes. 2 - Very Conditionally. 1 - Somewhat Conditionally.

AlienPrimateJun 10, 20172 votes

He is really weak early game and easily counter jungled to shut him down for the entire game.
to deal with wither and grouping early if you have a lead to end the game quickly counter him.
Cho'Gath is pretty worthless against a coordinated team. He is easily kited so he should never get anywhere close to your squishies. Also, destroy him.

BirboniusJun 10, 20172 votes

You don't know what you're talking about,imo.

Amumu -> burst damage

Where? Only if you have an heavy aa comp,in which his E gets practically no CD,but in that case,you would kill him with % armor pen and lifesteal. Also,Q it's his only mobility spell,dodge that (or go away when he uses it on minions) and you're good to go.

Olaf -> ridicoulus damage

Did the olaf build full AD? If so,then you can kill him with one combo. If not,you're lying. He does pure damage on his E,but he loses health doing so,has a good CD and wastes time with the animation AND it scales off of his AD,both in damage and cost,so he can't be doing both tank and damage threats. I play Olaf. I know. What stops me? Adcs who know how to play or good supports. Or 1-shot mages like syndra. Why? Cause when he ults and avoids all CC,he loses A LOT of armor and magic resistance,and his"mobility" stays up for 1 SECOND if he's going TOWARDS an enemy,so it can't be used to escape unless you want to avoid CC. Also,his Q it's easy to avoid,especially if he's a player who trows always max distance.

Fizz -> CC

He has only his shark. I do perma-ban him cause,being an assassn with invulnerability,i prefer avoiding him,but think before writing.

Nasus -> 1-shotting

Only ADCs who don't move out of the way get that treatment. All others are getting 3 to 4 Q in the head before dying,if they don't duel him in his E. Being a Juggernaut,CC him while the ADC keeps hitting me STAYING AWAY FROM HIM. NEVER STAND NEAR THE DOG'S MOUTH.

Also the slow is 99%. Seriously,think and inform yourself.

Cho

Yeah,thisi s kind of true,a bit like fizz,but you have all early game to destroy his possibility to get CS,destroying his possibility of getting gold,destroying his possibility to get items and get tanky. Like all other juggernauts and damage based tanks,in late game he gets insanely good if played well. His downside? SLOW AS FUCK,EVEN MORE THAN NASUS OR URGOT,AND HE HAS NO GAP CLOSER,SO JUST WALK AWAY AND AVOID HIS Q and you won't die.

"But how to avoid his 1.5k true damage point and click ult if i'm an adc qith only 1.3k hp? it's a oneshot!" Don't go alone and have the reaction to go away when he flashes. So don't get immobiles like Ashe or Jhin.

Now,I know you are/were salty,but going on gameplay boards isn't a good way to get away from the feeling. If you wanna de-salt,better listen to music you like,or talk with friends/people you can trust about what your problems with those champs are. I was aggressive,just because i hate people salting on champs which are actually balanced. If it wasn't filled with salty rage,i wouldn't have been so aggressive in my response,so,hopeful that i have actually helped you and not only salted you even more,good evening and good luck next time.

RewtJun 10, 20171 votes

Olaf does actually do some retarded damage as a full tank. I remember playing olaf and being able to just run down their ADC and because I was geared towards stopping AD champs I just tank all their damage and murdered them with this completely balanced item item 3748 . Olaf honestly could use a Q damage nerf. Its pretty insane. Just play him jungle and kill Raptors after your first camp. Max Q. Its actually insane.

Cho is only annoying because His True Damage ult is Unaffected by the Self Damage Reduction of item 3193

Amumu is actually a pain in the ass but not for the reason stated. Its because the Q width is actually double the size of the animation XD

Fizz...... yea not a fan

Nasus. Fuck wither. Nasus isnt even that good but that 1 fucking ability makes me want to kill myself.

HallbusterJun 10, 20171 votes

As for the Cho, no being slow and predictable is not a good enough reason to give him an overwhelming kit, and neither is a low winrate.

This was the first post I made, regarding the dinosaur:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/Ap9qNQvP-how-do-you-beat-chogath

This was the second:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/Tw2fTAKH-please-do-something-about-chogath-riot

koshkyraJun 10, 20172 votes

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You don't know what you're talking about,imo.

Where? Only if you have an heavy aa comp,in which his E gets practically no CD,but in that case,you would kill him with % armor pen and lifesteal. Also,Q it's his only mobility spell,dodge that (or go away when he uses it on minions) and you're good to go.

Did the olaf build full AD? If so,then you can kill him with one combo. If not,you're lying. He does pure damage on his E,but he loses health doing so,has a good CD and wastes time with the animation AND it scales off of his AD,both in damage and cost,so he can't be doing both tank and damage threats. I play Olaf. I know. What stops me? Adcs who know how to play or good supports. Or 1-shot mages like syndra. Why? Cause when he ults and avoids all CC,he loses A LOT of armor and magic resistance,and his"mobility" stays up for 1 SECOND if he's going TOWARDS an enemy,so it can't be used to escape unless you want to avoid CC. Also,his Q it's easy to avoid,especially if he's a player who trows always max distance.

He has only his shark. I do perma-ban him cause,being an assassn with invulnerability,i prefer avoiding him,but think before writing.

Only ADCs who don't move out of the way get that treatment. All others are getting 3 to 4 Q in the head before dying,if they don't duel him in his E. Being a Juggernaut,CC him while the ADC keeps hitting me STAYING AWAY FROM HIM. NEVER STAND NEAR THE DOG'S MOUTH.

Also the slow is 99%. Seriously,think and inform yourself.

Yeah,thisi s kind of true,a bit like fizz,but you have all early game to destroy his possibility to get CS,destroying his possibility of getting gold,destroying his possibility to get items and get tanky. Like all other juggernauts and damage based tanks,in late game he gets insanely good if played well. His downside? SLOW AS FUCK,EVEN MORE THAN NASUS OR URGOT,AND HE HAS NO GAP CLOSER,SO JUST WALK AWAY AND AVOID HIS Q and you won't die.

"But how to avoid his 1.5k true damage point and click ult if i'm an adc qith only 1.3k hp? it's a oneshot!" Don't go alone and have the reaction to go away when he flashes. So don't get immobiles like Ashe or Jhin.

Now,I know you are/were salty,but going on gameplay boards isn't a good way to get away from the feeling. If you wanna de-salt,better listen to music you like,or talk with friends/people you can trust about what your problems with those champs are. I was aggressive,just because i hate people salting on champs which are actually balanced. If it wasn't filled with salty rage,i wouldn't have been so aggressive in my response,so,hopeful that i have actually helped you and not only salted you even more,good evening and good luck next time.

This was completely an opinion post and i said that at the beginning. In no way was i saying "RITO PLS NERF THIS FUCKING BROKEN CHAMPION". I merely stated why i thought a champion was OP and in no way called for nerfs on them. The fact that you're saying im "filled with salty rage" is beyond me since i specifically stated that i was not insisting i was right and i was fully aware that this post was an opinion.

BirboniusJun 11, 20171 votes

Sorry,i re-read the introduction (when i read it 1st time it was late night,so i did miss words) and i didn't saw 2 important phrases,or at least i don't remember reading them.

"I am not insisting that my opinion is correct" "is not something to take too seriously."

So yeah,my fault,sorry for the misunderstanding and for giving that hard time.

BTW you said "medium salt level" so it's not filled,but still a bit salty (the original post),at least that's what i get. But still,sorry again,and have a good day (hopefully,it started as a bad day for me before this reply).

Also,i'm happy you replied without insulting,that gives me hope :D In some way.

Jo0oJun 10, 20172 votes

Cho at #1? He's got a pretty terrible winrate these days. I mean, he's got strengths like anybody, but he's super clunky. Easily avoided skillshot, easily kited... I dunno.

HallbusterJun 10, 20171 votes

I will agree with everyone champion you listed except 4. Nasus is actually countered pretty easily with any form of CC(unlike BS Yi or Olaf) and despite what most people say can't do massive amounts of damage without getting in melee range, and thus gets kited to death. His damage is also "single" target which means he can't survive if the entire team groups him, unlike Renekton. Add this to his patch nerf and I will have to disagree.

A late game Vladimir is way stronger and can sustain himself for far longer than Nasus can.

DoktorKaiserJun 10, 20171 votes

This post gave me ebola.

TimX24968BJun 10, 20171 votes

no mobility, extremely telegraphed
thats how late-game champions work. again, no mobility. (in his kit)
learn how to play around his untargetability, not target him and hope he gets it removed one day
only one gapcloser bound to a skillshot, thats his only mobility.
again, no mobility built into his kit

Its like in bronze nobody knows how to deal with immobile champions, and shouldn't punish you for being in range of them...

There's more options than fighting them, you know...

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