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proof that zoey is busted as fudge

xDogMeatx··4 votes·687 views

(update update) i was wrong i laging out i was auto attacking she whittled me down to half then i received a big burst how could i be so stupid.

I was a kog maw full build mind you with item 3812 item 3072 item 3124 item 3006 item 3153 item 2140 item 3085 and i had full shields with overheal i think around 1900 hp (not including shields) i was autoing minions so shields are up and ready for impact all Zoe does is a long range q then boom wtf dmg went through 30% deaths dance and my shields in a instant not even Veigar has that kind of burst in late game mind u (give back Veigar old ult as a counter vs Zoe as only conditional vs her ) lets say a fizz ulted me and bursted me down to low hp at least fizz wouldnt bust through a deaths dance instantly like she does. yes i mean there was no deaths dance proc not even a omg 1 hp clutch. nerf her ap ratios cuz this bs oneshoting without e is stupid as fudge. PS. i use fudge as it is delicious and good for censorship. yes btw its a Q.Q thing about opness but im honest how dumb this is. yasuo and zed working together looks nice in a game compared to her. (updated) honestly idk what i have to gain by lying so the downvotes are just trolls who want the truth to be suppressed. its wrong to look at the game in a vaccum like "oh theres all melee champs gg" theres more variables to consider than that and im the adc too that doesnt entitle me to special treatment or anything im just saying. the only ones defending her are the ones who main her. too saying also saying that my team is bad due to comp but... they were actually very very efficient to say that the comp is bad is insulting to my teammates who worked hard im glad i had them to work with me. To me my teammates arent a means to a end if they want to express themselves as their champion in a efficient manner that benefits all i respect that about them heck i even in my memory or past games im the guy who would take a jhin bullet and (die mind you) to save my teammates if i chose me or my teammates (not trying pulling the holier than thou trope in this) its the type of person i am in terms of teamwork i maybe adc but i have a heart to my supp or other members there are times where me dying is not efficient though my teammates would save me instead i thank them all for doing so the trust given to me by them to do that counterproductive nature to give life so 1 may live is the most human thing i admire. look at me rambling on about other topics im sorry for the wall of text and yes as the military would say to their superior "its a honor to serve you sir" and it was with this team i can say that.

27 Comments

DNFVixen2 votes

Riot doesn't care about us anymore, they want flashy quick no fucking skill games. Till the games have the same feel of season 3-5 I have already quit.

Professor Ward2 votes

Her q only, isnt going to one shot a level 4 sona with no items, seems like a bs story to me. Without her true damage she hits like a matress

xDogMeatx1 votes

if someone answers like Dodge the Q they are missing the point of deaths dance its supposed to help give you a chance vs that bs with overheal and bloodthirster at the same time with no nerf book item 3165

Azadethe1 votes

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if someone answers like Dodge the Q they are missing the point of deaths dance its supposed to help give you a chance vs that bs with overheal and bloodthirster at the same time with no nerf book item 3165

The problem with that assumption: What killed him was an entire kit of spells, and a lich bane, and some of that was True damage, which is not reduced. He's also not showing a video of when this happened, how long the game was, and he doesn't have an ounce of Magic resist, so she's probably actually doing bonus damage through magic penetration. If he had a Mercurial or Maw of Malmortius or both, he prob would survive with 600 hp+ some serious life regain.

It was a 50 minute game, and they had a troll support , and everyone was feeding their lanes. His team only had Mag resist on the troll support Taric. Kog didn't even go Nullifying Orb. He went Mana band.

His team was also a dream team for Zoe...... Close range fighters: Katarina, Poppy, Taric, Rumble. What do they all have in common? Oh right. They're melee range champs who are super easy to sleep. Yet they didn't build Resist almost at all.

I really suggest people watch this video: Faker playing Zoe.

He's a perfect user, and insane at hitting everything. He still doesn't have a fast or perfect win with easy 1 shots with Zoe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlywBt3X_oc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfvUV642VMU

He carries with her, but it's not some 20 kill games or worse, 30, like you can do with a Kha Zix.

xDogMeatx1 votes

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The problem with that assumption: What killed him was an entire kit of spells, and a lich bane, and some of that was True damage, which is not reduced. He's also not showing a video of when this happened, how long the game was, and he doesn't have an ounce of Magic resist, so she's probably actually doing bonus damage through magic penetration. If he had a Mercurial or Maw of Malmortius or both, he prob would survive with 600 hp+ some serious life regain.

It was a 50 minute game, and they had a troll support , and everyone was feeding their lanes. His team only had Mag resist on the troll support Taric. Kog didn't even go Nullifying Orb. He went Mana band.

His team was also a dream team for Zoe...... Close range fighters: Katarina, Poppy, Taric, Rumble. What do they all have in common? Oh right. They're melee range champs who are super easy to sleep. Yet they didn't build Resist almost at all.

I really suggest people watch this video: Faker playing Zoe.

He's a perfect user, and insane at hitting everything. He still doesn't have a fast or perfect win with easy 1 shots with Zoe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlywBt3X_oc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfvUV642VMU

He carries with her, but it's not some 20 kill games or worse, 30, like you can do with a Kha Zix.

wait u cant view my videos through match history? im new to this forum stuff.

xDogMeatx1 votes

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wait u cant view my videos through match history? im new to this forum stuff.

can you please do the math of how she pierced a fully shielded kogmaw and that lifesteal and overheal and deathsdance in one hit just a q theres no bubble btw idk the math too just saying to add to something never look at the match in a vaccum about types of champs in their defend my taric did his job too well im actually happy he saved my life more than once there are times i saved him. Kats range is deceptive so in a way she isnt 'melee' range only she is a assassin caster type of champ welll poppy was almost indestructible i felt safe near her so safe i dont regret having each one of them on my team rumble also saved me a couple times as far as i remember. if i would do it again i would that time i would probs get as u said wits end and stuff XD

Azadethe1 votes

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can you please do the math of how she pierced a fully shielded kogmaw and that lifesteal and overheal and deathsdance in one hit just a q theres no bubble btw idk the math too just saying to add to something never look at the match in a vaccum about types of champs in their defend my taric did his job too well im actually happy he saved my life more than once there are times i saved him. Kats range is deceptive so in a way she isnt 'melee' range only she is a assassin caster type of champ welll poppy was almost indestructible i felt safe near her so safe i dont regret having each one of them on my team rumble also saved me a couple times as far as i remember. if i would do it again i would that time i would probs get as u said wits end and stuff XD

Well.... let's see:

She has at least 776 AP.

If she bubbled you, that's 530.5 Up front damage minus mitigation (almost none).

If she ONLY followed with a Q while sleeping, that's 1445.5 + 530.5 (max cap on double damage from Sleep).

That's 2506 damage up front.

BT blocks 350. Overheal would block 200. So you're still dealing with 1956 damage.

Furthermore, if she R'd toward you after the sleep, I can pretty much guarantee she proc'd a lich bane for another 472.

That's an easy post double shield 2400 damage vs your negligible 1900 HP.

If she had Baron, Infernals, Elder Drake, even more. If she had Blue buff, more. (Looks like she at least had Baron when she killed you; At 50 minutes that's about a 80 AP buff, or with a death cap + 108 AP, which adds a lot more damage. I don't know if she had blue buff, but if she did, that'd be +20 more AP; She probably also had an Elixir of Sorcery, for 50 more AP + more true damage for about 978 AP)

Bottom line: You guys let that game go for way too long, let her get fed, even though her team was garbage. You had an Inhibitor at 26 minutes, and then completely failed to push their base for the rest of the game. Instead you likely ran around skirmishing and trying to chase people for kills, while Zoe just began picking you off as melee, relatively easy to hit champs. Zoe didn't even really get into the game until 22:00, where she got her 4th kill. After that, you guys dallied around, and let her stack a massive 20.

Zoe is a late game champ. Don't let her get there. if you get an Inhibitor, finish it. Get baron, get a second lane, whatever. Don't chase champs around maps for 25 minutes and expect to win.

xDogMeatx1 votes

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Well.... let's see:

She has at least 776 AP.

If she bubbled you, that's 530.5 Up front damage minus mitigation (almost none).

If she ONLY followed with a Q while sleeping, that's 1445.5 + 530.5 (max cap on double damage from Sleep).

That's 2506 damage up front.

BT blocks 350. Overheal would block 200. So you're still dealing with 1956 damage.

Furthermore, if she R'd toward you after the sleep, I can pretty much guarantee she proc'd a lich bane for another 472.

That's an easy post double shield 2400 damage vs your negligible 1900 HP.

If she had Baron, Infernals, Elder Drake, even more. If she had Blue buff, more. (Looks like she at least had Baron when she killed you; At 50 minutes that's about a 80 AP buff, or with a death cap + 108 AP, which adds a lot more damage. I don't know if she had blue buff, but if she did, that'd be +20 more AP; She probably also had an Elixir of Sorcery, for 50 more AP + more true damage for about 978 AP)

Bottom line: You guys let that game go for way too long, let her get fed, even though her team was garbage. You had an Inhibitor at 26 minutes, and then completely failed to push their base for the rest of the game. Instead you likely ran around skirmishing and trying to chase people for kills, while Zoe just began picking you off as melee, relatively easy to hit champs. Zoe didn't even really get into the game until 22:00, where she got her 4th kill. After that, you guys dallied around, and let her stack a massive 20.

Zoe is a late game champ. Don't let her get there. if you get an Inhibitor, finish it. Get baron, get a second lane, whatever. Don't chase champs around maps for 25 minutes and expect to win.

k thx for understanding

xDogMeatx1 votes

i basically say omg whats that imaginary dmg

Professor Ward1 votes

A late game veigar bursts wayyyyyyyyyyyyy harder my man, he hits 1k ap easily and has a 100% ap ratio on his w, after that lands, his ult does execute damage, and thats not even considering his q damage, which is a 60% ratio.

Her ratios are low, its her true damage that is rough.

xDogMeatx1 votes

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A late game veigar bursts wayyyyyyyyyyyyy harder my man, he hits 1k ap easily and has a 100% ap ratio on his q, after that lands, his ult does execute damage, and thats not even considering his q damage, which is a 60% ratio.

Her ratios are low, its her true damage that is rough.

this isnt execute dmg btw its max hp with star trek shields on mr spock amount of defense

xDogMeatx1 votes

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A late game veigar bursts wayyyyyyyyyyyyy harder my man, he hits 1k ap easily and has a 100% ap ratio on his q, after that lands, his ult does execute damage, and thats not even considering his q damage, which is a 60% ratio.

Her ratios are low, its her true damage that is rough.

in other words i was ready for the impact

xDogMeatx1 votes

she takes some skill mind you its just how do they justify the ratios that are out of the charts (126k magic damage in a game more than a whole game) its just either buff deaths dance or nerf her hard

xDogMeatx1 votes

its like the death star hitting a star fleet unexpectly oh yeah she had no bubble on me

xDogMeatx1 votes

ummmm no its not if u want to look u can its still in my history i was full hp all shields kogmaw and the rest is in the storyline at top of page her e is somewhat balanced its low range and hard to land takes some skill ill admit and q too but the ratio of the Q dmg is stupid enough to break a full hpshielded kogmaw with overheal oh yeah btw this is latttte game like i said with all items. PS; im not doing to downvote anyone for expressing their opinions that are honest

Head Connoisseur1 votes

If you want literally anyone to ever believe even a fraction of claims like this, you need to provide video proof. Otherwise I will assume you are exaggerating/lying because you're tilted from losing a game to a character you don't understand how to play against.

xDogMeatx1 votes

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If you want literally anyone to ever believe even a fraction of claims like this, you need to provide video proof. Otherwise I will assume you are exaggerating/lying because you're tilted from losing a game to a character you don't understand how to play against.

how do i do that

dolphinosplash242 votes

Go to your match history. At the top right corner of each match there is replay button. Download and watch the replay to find the moment you were describing in your OP. Click the red record button just left of the middle of the screen and record it. When you are done recording a file name will appear above the record button. Find that file on your computer and upload it to youtube. Post the video link here so we can see it.

xDogMeatx1 votes

i updated it my post. its about my teammates im proud of instead of being negative about everything.

xDogMeatx1 votes

screw my life i was all wrong she did half my life i must have lagged out Q.Q during my aa session it looked like i was one shotted fml im srry but i did have a awesome team im gonna thank them for the performance im gonna show the game even though im wrong im sorry again

xDogMeatx1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMSG423ZxLs&feature=youtu.be

xDogMeatx1 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMSG423ZxLs&feature=youtu.be

sorry in advance im just keeping my promise held i didnt know that happened :(

Rester1 votes

So you're gonna complain that you went full lifesteal when with the last 2 item slots you could've gone defensive with things like a Maw, replacing tabis with Mercs, and maybe getting Adaptive Helm or Spirit Visage.

xDogMeatx1 votes

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So you're gonna complain that you went full lifesteal when with the last 2 item slots you could've gone defensive with things like a Maw, replacing tabis with Mercs, and maybe getting Adaptive Helm or Spirit Visage.

i said i was wrong in advance i found out i didnt get one shot

Rester1 votes

Well at least you found out what happened. But don't forget to consider Maw as a defensive option since it gives you an emergency shield. While it is true ADCs are glass cannons you can't neglect defensive options if magic burst is an issue (Unfortunately options are limited towards AD Burst Assassins)

xDogMeatx1 votes

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Well at least you found out what happened. But don't forget to consider Maw as a defensive option since it gives you an emergency shield. While it is true ADCs are glass cannons you can't neglect defensive options if magic burst is an issue (Unfortunately options are limited towards AD Burst Assassins)

oh ill put that in my emergency ap defense builds with all those options as well :D im gonna make emergency options vs ad or ap enemies

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