Can we get more LP per win than -LP per lose?

dEAdbUs·Sep 5, 2015·1 votes·983 views

I had 2 AFK in a row, how to get any division in this conditions? Why I'm getting 15 LP per win and losing 25 LP?

12 Comments

OnegarionSep 5, 20152 votes

This is on your own WR and how the games MMR is. When you are losing against a lot of teams you should beat and only win against those you should your gains are going to be shit. I'm gaining about 22 for a win and losing about 15 for a loss. Its because I'm winning a lot more than loosing and against all types of teams. This is your own doing and not just because of a couple of AFKers that you are getting these. Its over a long time that you have been tanking your MMR that you have to win a lot before you start seeing normal gains.

dEAdbUsSep 5, 20151 votes

Couple AFKs? Lol rly? I had TONS of AFKs, sometimes even 2 per game. Plus insane amount of boosters, I'm tired to write reports to support already. Let's image that I have 55% winrate, and I have to grow, but all this "negative" things eat this 5% and I'm sitting on same place.

OnegarionSep 5, 20151 votes

Look if you understood how the ranking system worked in any way we could have a discussion here, but you show that you don't. You show that you don't care about anything other than the fact that you aren't gaining anything because you can't win games. It sucks that your gains<losses, but thats your own fault. You can't put it on other players because I highly doubt its tons. I rarely get AFKs and I have never gotten a lot of them even when i was in bronze in my first 2 seasons. I clawed out and still saw very few in SIlver and I see less in gold. I"m finding more RQ players than I do AFK and even thats rare.

Your example is actually really bad. You don't ever have to "grow" with a 55% WR. All you have to do is maintain it. If you have other players affecting your WR that much through everything the system takes into account then you have less than 30 games played.

dEAdbUsSep 6, 20151 votes

You rarely got AFK, but judging me. 2 in a ROW, right in my PROMO.

Why I shouldn't grow with 55% winrate?

OnegarionSep 6, 20151 votes

Since this is getting more serious I had to check up on your stats and you have less than a 50% WR so i'm not sure what this 55% WR is even about. Also you haven't been doing well since late august. I'm sorry AFKs aren't killing your gains/losses that much for this long. How come not everyone gets the same level of players leaving and you seem to get them?

If you are expecting to win every promo then you need to get a new look on them. I never assume to win them until my 3rd try. This is because I'm usually coming in on a big hot streak and the game tends to put you against much better players then. So by failing a couple you start to get closer to your actual elo and games become much more winnable.

I can also speak here and "judge" because many times people who come here and cry about AFK are really toxic and harass their teammates which cause them to leave. I don't do any of this in any way in my typical games.

dEAdbUsSep 6, 20151 votes

55% winrate = 55 wins per 100 games. 49% winrate = 49 win per 100 games. So 6 AFKS per 100 games is more than enough to change ok winrate to negative. Plus boosters: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/5aR94fcj-gold-5-and-elo-around-is-crowded-by-smurfs-and-boosters

{quoted} If you are expecting to win every promo then you need to get a new look on them. I never assume to win them until my 3rd try. This is because I'm usually coming in on a big hot streak and the game tends to put you against much better players then. So by failing a couple you start to get closer to your actual elo and games become much more winnable.

But:

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2 AFK in a ROW, right in my PROMO.

OnegarionSep 6, 20151 votes

Yes that is able to account for it, but not when you have over 700 games. Thats not reasonable at all. If you only had about 100 games ok, but you have roughly 7 times that. Lets also do the math here. Leaving those 6 games out you would have 94 total games played with 49 wins. This only gives you a 52% WR. Assuming this would hold true through those 6 games you would get 3 wins and 3 losses. Keeping you at 52%. Again this still wouldn't make you have a WR of 55%. Also WR isn't the only thing that matters and the system does all it can to make sure you are at a 50% WR.

Idk what boosters have to do with anything. If you can't beat players better than you than you don't deserve to move up. It might suck that someone paid to have their account boosted, but it doesn't change the fact that you can't beat better.

dEAdbUsSep 7, 20151 votes

he he he tricky, right? 52% winrate + 6 loses = 49% winrate. We can't forget about loses. But this 52% winrate let me hit promo to gold 4 three times.

Boosters are usually diamond and higher, so your words "Don't deserve " sounds weird. If d be able to beat master or chall, then wtf I'm doing in low gold? Btw if you'll check my games you'll see that boosters usually destroying my team, not me. So while I can beat em, my low gold team can't.

KrfinSep 5, 20151 votes

Your mmr is determined by your overall w/l ratio. winning a lot = more lp, losing a lot = less lp Not sure why you're complaining, i checked your past 30 matches in ranked and there has been no AFKs.

Besides, you shouldn't tilt over an afk if you get one. Its just one game out of the many. It doesn't mean much in the long run.

One afk? You mean one less feeder. just try to carry your games

dEAdbUsSep 6, 20151 votes

2 in row, right in my promo.