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Lee mains responses to the Lee nerf makes me laugh

Mannny··7 votes·750 views

There was no doubt that he was too strong. That was already established and I won't go into why he is too strong because you all already know why he was too strong. Lee mains, particularly referring to a video by Heizman who is a fairly popular LoL youtuber who mains Lee seems to think that Lee did not need a nerf, and all the mains "see the weaknesses that others can't". I'm using him as an example because most likely, other Lee Sin players feel the same way. He goes into a rant about his winrate being nothing impressive and how Volibear had higher winrates, which is simply stupid considering the fact that Lee is played in half the games in LoL while Voli isn't even played in 1% of them. After looking through the comment section on the video I was astonished to see so many people blindly agreeing with him, and many others have been posting on the boards against the nerfs as well. No champion that is supposed to be "hard" that is played in half the games still maintaining an above average winrate should ever exist in LoL. Yes he is a smooth and fun champion but he was too strong, and Riot nerfed him justifiably. This is a fact, Lee mains stop trying to say it was not right.

Note: Lee is my second most played champion this season, and I also agree he was way too strong.

49 Comments

Eedat6 votes

Lee mains responses to the Lee nerf

There are none lmao. You're just making up bullshit to ride the circlejerk

rtbf2216514121 votes

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RenownedWheat422 votes

saying there are no RESPONSES from Lee mains. Read all of what's bolded.

rtbf2216514121 votes

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saying there are no RESPONSES from Lee mains. Read all of what's bolded.

Yeah right. Check again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnQJ89L9pc4

Yaśuo Main1 votes

What patch is this? 7.1? Are you fucking months behind? As far as I know, the nerfs on his ult CD and MS are different from the gutting of his ult. Leave your bullshit at the door.

rtbf2216514122 votes

[{quoted}](name=Yaśuo Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=B33AaAOO,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-19T22:09:12.280+0000)

What patch is this? 7.1? Are you fucking months behind? As far as I know, the nerfs on his ult CD and MS are different from the gutting of his ult. Leave your bullshit at the door.

Acting as if Lee Sin mains haven't complained on the forum already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctk68FCvRtQ

Is May 18 months behind too?

Where is the bullshit? Is it in your mouth now?

Yaśuo Main2 votes

Oh wow, the first ever piece of evidence viable, LUL. Atleast you left the BS at the door.

rtbf2216514123 votes

[{quoted}](name=Yaśuo Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=B33AaAOO,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-19T22:20:42.125+0000)

Oh wow, the first ever piece of evidence viable, LUL. Atleast you left the BS at the door.

No. It was left in your mouth. Where it belongs.

The OP clearly stated he commented on lee. Then, you go around saying it is fake with Eedat. Grow up.

GULAG 4 U2 votes

The first video you linked doesn't even respond to this patch's nerf. It was a nerf to Lee sin 9 fucking patches ago. The video is fucking irrelevant.

EDit: Only the first one.

Nvm, heizman seems bitchy.

rtbf2216514124 votes

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There are none lmao. You're just making up bullshit to ride the circlejerk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnQJ89L9pc4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctk68FCvRtQ

Wut?

Eedat3 votes

Links a video from 2016. Top kek [zombie-brand-facepalm]

rtbf2216514122 votes

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Links a video from 2016. Top kek [zombie-brand-facepalm]

What is reading comprehension?

Ever heard of such a thing?

Yaśuo Main2 votes

Links a video from 2016. Top Kek.

rtbf2216514121 votes

[{quoted}](name=Yaśuo Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=B33AaAOO,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-21T19:52:28.828+0000)

Links a video from 2016. Top Kek.

Best you got. What a sad life you got.

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Lee mains, particularly referring to a video by Heizman

Meanwhile Yaśuo Main & Eedat unable to go to google and search his name and 2017.

Yaśuo Main1 votes

Links a video from 2016.

You can get mad all you want but until you explain that, you won't get a reasonable response. :)

rtbf2216514121 votes

[{quoted}](name=Yaśuo Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=B33AaAOO,comment-id=0000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-23T00:41:17.373+0000)

Links a video from 2016.

You can get mad all you want but until you explain that, you won't get a reasonable response. :)

Don't need to explain something to the illiterate.

Yaśuo Main1 votes

You can get mad all you want but until you explain that, you won't get a reasonable response.

Mannny1 votes

I legit gave you an example of a popular Lee Main responding to the nerf but you'll probably still get upvotes cause ur Eedat.

rtbf2216514121 votes

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I legit gave you an example of a popular Lee Main responding to the nerf but you'll probably still get upvotes cause ur Eedat.

Well he is starting to get down voted because facts will stay regardless how willfully ignorant one wants to be.

GULAG 4 U2 votes

He doesn't represent the lee community at all. r/leesinmains doesn't seem to be talking or bitching about the nerf neither. At least not as much as R/Yasuomains.

Mannny1 votes

Not all, but a great majority of his fanbase agree with him. This is why I made this thread.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

His video does say that Lee Sin nerfs aren't doing the right thing, they should be making his weakness easier to exploit, not nerfing his strength. I disagree with his opinion on not nerfing him, but I agree on his opinion about riot's approach to nerfing him.

rtbf2216514121 votes

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His video does say that Lee Sin nerfs aren't doing the right thing, they should be making his weakness easier to exploit, not nerfing his strength. I disagree with his opinion on not nerfing him, but I agree on his opinion about riot's approach to nerfing him.

Lee sin is mobile enough. Should we add movement speed to Kalista, Riven, Nidalee, Kassiden, Leblanc, and etc?

His win rate is prob down because he's not faceroll easy anymore.

He can go to enemy jungle, grab the buff, and escape easily at level 1. There was a problem with him.

GULAG 4 U2 votes

I don't disagree with what you're saying here, but it doesn't respond at all to what I was saying.

rtbf2216514121 votes

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not nerfing his strength.

{quoted} He can go to enemy jungle, grab the buff, and escape easily at level 1. There was a problem with him.

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I don't disagree with what you're saying here, but it doesn't respond at all to what I was saying.

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GULAG 4 U1 votes

Seemsgood ForsenE

rtbf2216514121 votes

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Seemsgood ForsenE

English.

Thanks.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

He can go to enemy jungle, grab the buff, and escape easily at level 1. There was a problem with him.

This entire line is bullshit, because lee sin can only go in, he can't go out.

His win rate is prob down because he's not faceroll easy anymore.

This is bullshit too, because first timers on lee sin have a 47% winrate, and it goes up linearly. His winrate dropped because he got nerfed. It doesn't take a genius to understand this.

Lee sin is mobile enough. Should we add movement speed to Kalista, Riven, Nidalee, Kassiden, Leblanc, and etc?

This suggests I'm asking to improve lee sin's strength because the lee sin main in the video said nerfing his lategame and making his weaknesses easier to exploit is bullshit. I never asked for compensation buffs. So what is the point of

Lee sin is mobile enough. Should we add movement speed to Kalista, Riven, Nidalee, Kassiden, Leblanc, and etc?

when I never even suggested this?

Almost everything you brought up is bullshit and nonsense, and it fails to respond to my comment.

rtbf2216514121 votes

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This entire line is bullshit, because lee sin can only go in, he can't go out.

This is bullshit too, because first timers on lee sin have a 47% winrate, and it goes up linearly. His winrate dropped because he got nerfed. It doesn't take a genius to understand this.

This suggests I'm asking to improve lee sin's strength because the lee sin main in the video said nerfing his lategame and making his weaknesses easier to exploit is bullshit. I never asked for compensation buffs. So what is the point of

when I never even suggested this?

Almost everything you brought up is bullshit and nonsense, and it fails to respond to my comment.

You sure you play the same game?

Lee doesn't have Q and flash?

Bro story is cool. Spread your ignorance elsewhere.

GULAG 4 U2 votes

By your logic, any champion that has a dash can do that because they can just flash out afterwards.

rtbf2216514121 votes

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By your logic, any champion that has a dash can do that because they can just flash out afterwards.

Because clearly everyone can place a ward, Q, smite, and then flash out as fast as he can.

GULAG 4 U2 votes

Eh yes they can? Aatrox can do it, Yi can do it, and they still deal significant damage even after their spells. And Lee sin's strength isn't his level 1 invade, because that shit almost never happens.

rtbf2216514121 votes

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Eh yes they can? Aatrox can do it, Yi can do it, and they still deal significant damage even after their spells. And Lee sin's strength isn't his level 1 invade, because that shit almost never happens.

Yi needs vision. Attrox is just bad (lul significant damage) and has no vision with his Q. Lee can force vision with just a Q.

Make better comparisons.

Yaśuo Main1 votes

Because clearly everyone can place a ward

Your own words. And you aren't wrong, everyone can place a ward.

And go ahead and down vote me, it show's your idiocy lol.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Wat? I don't downvote? I didn't even say this like afaik lol, why is this linked to me? Spag code?

Yaśuo Main1 votes

was talking to laking in IQ

GULAG 4 U1 votes

I'm assuming you're referring to Lakrosin.

But really, no hard feelings.

GULAG 4 U4 votes

Lee sin not needing nerfs was pretty bullshit.

The problem is the 5 ms nerf. This does almost nothing. It's a nerf for fuck's sake. It doesn't solve any issues, it doesn't affect him in ANY way. Completely pointless change.

Yaśuo Main3 votes

5 MS is still a lot. He deserved that after we found out he has 3 dashes and one the highest movement speeds.

GULAG 4 U3 votes

5 ms is impactful. On a champion with 2 dashes? No, not that much. He still has Aatrox tier level of base MS, which is still high and effective against his targets (mages) that typically have 330-340. (Lee has 345).

Also Lee doesn't have 3 dashes. Q+W. His R doesn't affect movement and neither does his E [his own]. Just wanted to point that out.

Yaśuo Main3 votes

Sorry, not sure why I considered 1st Q to be a dash. I'm a bit of a "skim over the page" kind of person.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

It's Ok. No hard feelings. People make minor mistakes here and there. No reason to linger on it for a long time.

zlumpy1 votes

Musta been that random time someone had a proto belt on lee for that 3rd one!

Who is Taliyah1 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/RPezgEik-well-the-lee-sin-nerf-seemed-small-at-first-but

Not sure

GULAG 4 U2 votes

I specifically said the 5 ms. I never said the other ult change was insignificant. Hitting his early game with 0 compensation will hurt him very hard. Riot directly targeted his biggest strength. -2% drop in WR is normal. I wasn't saying the entire nerfs are going to do nothing, only the 5 ms is pointless because it doesn't solve any of his major issues in the long run.

VoraciousX1 votes

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Lee sin not needing nerfs was pretty bullshit.

The problem is the 5 ms nerf. This does fucking nothing. It's a nerf for fuck's sake. It doesn't solve any issues, it doesn't affect him in ANY way. Completely pointless change.

Waiting for Malicious Metal to ask for Lee Sin's 5 MS.

IcyPepper1 votes

Well, to be fair, true diehard fans can't see anything.

/jk

ActivatingEMP1 votes

"WHY DID THEY NERF HIM! THEY ALREADY GUTTED HIS ULT DAMAGE AND NOW THEY GUT THE REST OF HIM?" -my friend, Josh, the gold lee sin main

Kal Vas Flam1 votes

Well I mean, Riot doesn't even know what Lee Sin does. They think he's a diver for pete's sake. I'd play nothing but divers if they could also assassinate, tank, and skirmish at all stages of the game with the safety of being able to undo the whole, you know, "diving" thing.

Anyway I can't feel bad for him. They destroyed my Shen jg forever with his ult nerf. This will bring Lee down a peg, but he'll still be a perfectly viable and most likely top tier jungler.

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