It's great that you nerfed syndras ult cooldown but what about it one shotting me at level 6

Unlucky47··10 votes·964 views

I dodged every ability and she pressed r and ignited me with two autos. That's it. My entire health bar. Can you do something to make that not completely unsurvivable? The cooldown nerf only helped laning against her by the slightest amount.

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LankPants8 votes

Syndra's max R base damage at level 6 is 630, if she somehow has 7 orbs out at level 6. Realistically CDR is a factor so at best it's at 540 base damage. Why am I only looking at base damage? Because we're talking about level 6. She doesn't have that much AP, at best a 6 orb ult is about 600 damage.

This raises 2 questions.

How does a champion one shot you with 600 damage at level 6? She's not, no champion has that little HP at 6 and every champ has MR.

And how are you getting hit by a 6 orb ult at level 6? If you're actually getting hit by a 6 orb ult you're massively disrespecting her spheres.

Unlucky472 votes

600 damage at level six is 2/3 of most champions health bars from one ability she didn't have to aim. That also doesn't factor in maybe around 15% extra damage from masteries and thunderlords. And it wasn't a six orb ult she missed one q and then pressed r. Like I said i only took maybe 100-150 extra damage from whatever and then her ult ignite killed me.

She shouldn't have that high base damage anyways thats fucking ridiculous

PopCorn Chick3n1 votes

Then the problem is masteries then, so you know who made them, riot. Tell them to remove all masteries and maybe all champions would be a lot more balance.

XmortoxX4 votes

I remember when syndra had to actually land a couple abilities and actually get a stun on you before ulting so she could kill you.

Now all it is is hitting q, stunning, then ulting for a free kill.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

The mage update ruined the majority of mages, her though is more of making her too easy. I miss the times when she required skill to carry.

Lexyy4 votes

Lol, this is so not true. Stop crying.

Unreformed Shaco4 votes

I smell a liar.

ModAcademy Kayn3 votes

Replay's exist, put up or shut up.

aqours fanboy2 votes

If you don't got the mobility to dodge stun, quite honestly you cannot be close to her.

She can only control the area around her spheres, if you are continuously standing RIGHT ON TOP OF THEM when they spawn, and you got a second to react when said sphere spawn, you are quite literally asking to get slapped.

The current Syndra cheese may be annoying, but if you aren't respecting what she has and go all "oh she has all this up but fuck planning for it, laning should be easy!", bitching about it won't make it go away.

EDIT: If you really got all in'd with 2 auto's, ignite, and her ulti, that means she either had a good amount of AP or you were behind in lane and you quite honestly did not respect the difference.

90/135/180 (+20% Ability Power) + 70-410 true, this is how much she does, with no MR. Buying MR, accounting for HP, no way this is a one shot unless, like I said, she was fed or you were behind in lane.

sobi9991 votes

I just don't get why her ult is point and click when it does so much damage. It should be skill based i.e. like a cone.

Ambient Snow1 votes

Don't see why syndra needs a nerf because you refuse to get MR

Unlucky472 votes

Don't see why I need to rush mr to avoid dying to one ability at level 6.

Ambient Snow1 votes

and that's why you died

easy enough

Unlucky472 votes

neither of us had backed. A champion shouldn't do that much damage with a point and click ability the moment they hit six and if you would argue otherwise than this conversation is meaningless

Bishasaurus Flex1 votes

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neither of us had backed. A champion shouldn't do that much damage with a point and click ability the moment they hit six and if you would argue otherwise than this conversation is meaningless

You posting on the forums is meaningless.

Bishasaurus Flex1 votes

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Don't see why I need to rush mr to avoid dying to one ability at level 6.

"Omg Syndra is broken her ult 1 shot me. What? Buy MR? Lol no wtf"

Buy MR you f*cktard.

If you are against Syndra, a Negatron cloak is the first thing you buy. Start either boots or even a MR mantle.

Unlucky471 votes

did you even fucking read anything else? Neither of us had backed yet. She had no extra ap and I didn't have mr. But her base damage and ignite was enough. does that not sound like a problem?

Bishasaurus Flex1 votes

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did you even fucking read anything else? Neither of us had backed yet. She had no extra ap and I didn't have mr. But her base damage and ignite was enough. does that not sound like a problem?

Yeah I read it. But she didnt just press R and kill you eith ignite. At level 6. With just a dorans ring.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Don't see why I need to rush mr to avoid dying to one ability at level 6.

right... because her ulti is her ONLY ability that does magic damage [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Unlucky471 votes

the only ability she hit me with. If I had backed before 6 I would have bought mr but as neither of us had backed I didn't think she'd kill me with one ability.

SwiftKitten881 votes

at lvl 6 syndra's magic damage per sphere is 90 + .20% ap per sphere

even if she somehow hit you with 7 spheres (which she cant do at 6)

a doran item 1056 is only 15 ap so the maximum AP should can have had is around 50 if you include FULL ap runes and masteries

so a 7 sphere ulti would be 700 damage NOT counting MR

if we incude thinderlords it would do and extra 65 damage (60 from lvl 6 and 5 becuase 5 is 10% of 50 ap) so thats 765 damage every champ in the game starts with a minimum of 30 mr 30 mr reduced damage by 23% even even with 25 mr you would take 77% damage from her ulti lowering it from 762 to 587

now lets take the champ with the lowest hp of ANY champ in the game at lvl 6 Gnar at 797 hp

ignite does 170 damage at 6

so 587 + 170 = 756

even under IMPOSSIBLE SCENARIOS.

a lvl 6 Syndra ulti + summoner 14 CANNOT 100/0 you with just a item 1056 adding in the two autos WOULD kill you in that senario... in reality it is only possible to get a 6 sphere ulti at lvl 6 and even THAT is impressive at accomplish at lvl 6 a 6 sphere ulti with 50 ap would be 600 damage. thunderlords again adds 65 bringing it up to 665

then we take into account MR for 23% reduction bring us down to 511

now even if we assume the impossible at you have the HP of gnar and the worst armor at lvl 6 (except thresh because his scales with souls and that would be to weird to calculate)

we have 2 syndra auto attacks dealing 130.6 base damage time .7758 (for 28.9 armor ofOrianna ) that is 28.9 armor

we get 101.32 so 102 now we add the ignite at 170

so 511 magic (ulti) +102 physical (2x autos)+170 truesummoner 14 = 783

which.. STILL cannot 1 shot ANYTHING in the game at lvl 6.

so... no... she cant... yes its going to hurt a lot.

whats your point... Syndra can ALMOST 100/0 you with her ulti at lvl 6 if she plays it PERFECTLY

Talon can 100/0 you at lvl 2. so i ask again...whats your point?

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