What if we gave Ardent a Cooldown?

Glory to God·Oct 6, 2017·7 votes·555 views

What if Ardent had a 10-ish seconds cooldown after it has been applied on an ally? I think this will discourage permashielding by a margin and add some decision-making to it.

8 Comments

Naomi CoffeeGoatOct 6, 20173 votes

It would also encourage "selfish" behavior in that you don't want to waste the buff on a champ that can't use it and would rather try to get to the one that can.

zero356Oct 6, 20172 votes

But muh freelo

Honestly, though, probably not the best way to gate it. The heals and shields already have a significant CD. So a CD would either be irrelevant or make enchanters worse (and not just power worse but playing them worse) since they have to wait to do what they do.

CD on stuff like Tri-force works because it's meant to be used with people who have negligible CDs on the skills that proc it. CD on autoattack buffs are similar.

XxxLumberJackxxXOct 6, 20171 votes

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But muh freelo

Honestly, though, probably not the best way to gate it. The heals and shields already have a significant CD. So a CD would either be irrelevant or make enchanters worse (and not just power worse but playing them worse) since they have to wait to do what they do.

CD on stuff like Tri-force works because it's meant to be used with people who have negligible CDs on the skills that proc it. CD on autoattack buffs are similar.

No too much car on support items shields have huge uptime if they aren't popped

zero356Oct 7, 20171 votes

Then you get the same problem of the CD on the item either doesn't matter because they shield outlasts it It makes a slight annoyance of having to wait two seconds. Of course, that's assuming fights last long enough to get more than one shield off, which is another issue with the idea. Or it's makes the item worthless because the CD is too long.

Lost ROct 6, 20171 votes

I say no, because players already make an extreme habit of wasting all of the support buffs.

T2theManOct 6, 20171 votes

Make it an active item with a 30(?) sec cooldown. Reduce the cost a little. Fixd.

SalronOct 6, 20171 votes

There is no decision making change from this I'd still spam shields/heals on CD for my carry as I need to because them surviving is more important than applying the ardent buff

ParoeOct 6, 20171 votes

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There is no decision making change from this I'd still spam shields/heals on CD for my carry as I need to because them surviving is more important than applying the ardent buff

Also this change would neccessitate a duration buff. No, the reason why THIS ITEM IS STRONG is because marksmen are strong. Enchanters as a whole are strong because marksmen are strong.