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Glory to God·Sep 5, 2017·37 votes·3,300 views

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55 Comments

Pale PirateSep 5, 201743 votes

LeeSin item 3504 You know what time it is

Skins ProjectSep 6, 20172 votes

Actually, my friend and I play lee sin support for giggles, it's not that bad either, TANK/AP build and focus on shielding, fucking skill shots my ass ;3

I have a theory lee was designed as a support, they planned for sightstone >_>

THINK ABOUT IT,

Lee was just a support shafted into jungle by the player base!

He has his Q which was vision, W which was shielding, E which was vision + aa slow... And ult is hard CC!!!

It all fits into a support kit doesn't it?

And the way to win is build tank, something that fits into the support ideology!

And then if you play lee YOU HAVE TO WARD! Erm, even if the positioning isn't great, 2 wards is better then 1!

ˉˉˉˉˉˉSep 6, 20171 votes

Ayooo, same. Insec as Lee support is also what makes it fun, it's like your own gank in bot lane.

R2D20Sep 6, 20171 votes

no no, lee sin was meant for all roles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXxcpaCr1hw

FirethornSep 6, 20172 votes

[{quoted}](name=0 oxros piratis,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AmHchzx1,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-09-05T19:50:01.813+0000)

You know what time it is

LEE SIN SUPPORT BABY

SweedishGunnerSep 6, 20172 votes

My eyes! It burns!

Friendly RamSep 5, 201722 votes

hey i'm happy they're not buffing his damage.

GrReaper96Sep 6, 20171 votes

They're probably doing this to encourage maxing E second

Fondling GemsSep 6, 20171 votes

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, at max level there is no buff, so it is clearly intended to help his early jg clear with a bigger early shield but no better scaling.

If they wanted him to max it 2nd there would be a benefit to maxing it, this buff gives no reason to max it.

Edit: Derp, messed up his W and E. I still don't think it is aimed at an E second max method and is more designed to help his early clear. There are better ways to make him want to max E 2nd and while you would now get less per level of W rank 5 W is still going to be just as good vs rank 5 E.

SalsonSep 6, 20172 votes

They buff his level 1 W so he maxes E second.

Fondling GemsSep 6, 20171 votes

{quoted}

They buff his level 1 W so he maxes E second.

Whoops, thanks for pointing that out. I edited my comment to reflect on that.

Soraka is SO HOTSep 6, 20172 votes

Your name brings rather lewd, though welcome, images to my mind and heart.

[vlad-salute]

Fondling GemsSep 7, 20172 votes

Shhh, don't use the L word. If the other wardens catch on that my name is pretty much just a sexual innuendo they might force me to change it, and no one wants that.

Soraka is SO HOTSep 7, 20172 votes

Ah yes. To be specific, I imagine literally juggling Taric's gemstones.

Purely an acrobatic performance.

Snake PrinceSep 6, 20171 votes

regardless he loses less hp in jungle , so more ganks .

SalronSep 5, 201717 votes

Lots of thought and effort put into this Good points made there

I'm glad people on this board can think clearly about Lee Sin for indepth discussion

belrokSep 6, 20173 votes

At this point all that could be said has been, riot will never stop riding Lee's dick because he's "popular" and people like you will never stop downplaying that fact.

So many more champs more deserving than him of being looked at for tweaks and yet they do nothing for them because not enough people in their holier than though opinion give a fuck.

MuffledGarbageSep 5, 20178 votes

Riot completely forgot about what they said about Kalista falling out of meta and why they didn't touch her for the LONGEST time.

Riot even forgot that they stated that they didn't buff Kalista BECAUSE she could fall back into meta really easily,

Riot is forgetting that they are gonna break LeeSin in the same way they said they didn't want to break Kalista ...

what the hell is your problem riot?

AhristocatsSep 7, 20171 votes

????????

when kalista had 44% win rate she got buffed and they made her E reseting the full mana with only one kill

MuffledGarbageSep 7, 20171 votes

that was roughly 5 patches ago

Meep ManSep 6, 20178 votes

Ah yes, this is exactly what Lee Sin needed. More early game power. ~~Even as someone who doesn't complain much, jesus really?~~

ModWulf HelhammerSep 5, 20177 votes

And your point is....?

TheProAndrewSep 5, 201715 votes

lee sin does not need anymore buffs... that's his point

ModWulf HelhammerSep 5, 20179 votes

He's got a 45-47% winrate depending on the site, and is completely outclassed right now by tank junglers.

You were saying?

KoKobotoSep 5, 201715 votes

Lee SIn is just out of meta. He doesn't need buffs.

ModWulf HelhammerSep 5, 20173 votes

Just responded to your thread.

That's kinda the reason buffs exist.

TálØnlySep 5, 20171 votes

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ModWulf HelhammerSep 5, 20171 votes

Wtf is wrong with you people.

Hello I am BirdSep 5, 20174 votes

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well the lee buff and you both have no reason to exist but yet you are here, i guess the world is full of mistakes

E D G Y Insulting someone else doesn't do shit for your own point and devalues any reasonable argument you had before. I hate Lee as much as the next guy, but he is not strong in high elo play, and that's just how it is right now. If you don't have an argument besides "I really don't enjoy fighting lee, and he was infuriating to play against in the past, then he shouldn't be buffed now!", then leave please.

GayFluffyUnicornSep 5, 20172 votes

And his winrate is perfectly fine for that kind of a champion. All riot does is breaking him again once the meta shifts away from tank junglers.

ModWulf HelhammerSep 5, 20172 votes

You really think 20/15/10 HP to his shield is going to break him?

Did you even read what the changes were before you decided to go on your anti Lee sin circlejerk?

ShadòwSep 5, 20176 votes

I couldn't care less about that.

My ?????????????????????? moment when I read the pbe notes was:

WHY THE FUCK ARE WE GIVING BACK ULT PASSIVE MOVEMENT SPEED??

aqours fanboySep 6, 20172 votes

She sucks without it.

ninjaroxasSep 6, 20171 votes

That's the point

ShadòwSep 6, 20171 votes

well then give her other buffs.

this "I'll chase you down and kill you" is just toxic.

aqours fanboySep 6, 20171 votes

She bases her gameplay around her vitals (something that isn't easy, mind you.) She should not be at a disadvantage trying to utilize her only advantage in a fight.

ShadòwSep 6, 20171 votes

ye hard to hit them when they are literally all around you

aqours fanboySep 6, 20171 votes

In this current meta, with all the disengage, and mobility?

Yes.

ShadòwSep 6, 20171 votes

well would be cool if you actually had a chance to disengage without her Ult being basically be a Death Mark.

she should win Duels, but shouldn't be able to chase and run you down for years. that's just toxic.

GelmousSep 5, 20176 votes

hey OP have you maybe thought of providing actual context to your post instead of question marks on the title and just a single picture as the context ?