I Feel Yi's E should have a slight power shift on his E from true damage to AD

Sasogwa·Aug 13, 2015·1 votes·588 views

Right now, Yi is a bit obnoxious because of his ridiculous true damage (if you play a tank, the deathrecap is quite clear : around half the damage you received is true damage... literally. I think removing a bit of power from this true damage and putting it on the AD aspect of the spell (+10% AD -> more? scaling?) instead would give counterbuilds slightly more efficiency, ofc Yi is a tankmelter but Yi is a bit too much : he kills a tank nearly as fast as a carry because he deals way too much true damage.

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Critmaster GarenAug 13, 20152 votes

the thing is. how is that different from the new fiora? you can get 80% max health true damage on her ult with decent defensive stats.

SasogwaAug 13, 20151 votes

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the thing is. how is that different from the new fiora? you can get 80% max health true damage on her ult with decent defensive stats.

Uhm.. I don't understand the point. Yi is more mobile than fiora, Fiora needs to go around her target to get all the ult stacks, and I'm proposing a nerf to that true damage. Yi has outplay tools to survive a teamfight, his Q and W, that Fiora doesn't. Well she has her dash and parry but they are a bit less strong and the riposte is very slow.

Critmaster GarenAug 13, 20151 votes

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Uhm.. I don't understand the point. Yi is more mobile than fiora, Fiora needs to go around her target to get all the ult stacks, and I'm proposing a nerf to that true damage. Yi has outplay tools to survive a teamfight, his Q and W, that Fiora doesn't. Well she has her dash and parry but they are a bit less strong and the riposte is very slow.

yi needs to stand still and auto attack for the most part.

TheLastShadow45Aug 13, 20151 votes

The only way I can see them nerfing Sated Yi is to not allow Sated ghost to use his E's true damage.

KONO RUBICK DAAug 13, 20151 votes

Right now yi isn't obnoxious, can be focused down, cc'ed and does a great at taking tanks down since his role is melee carry

SasogwaAug 13, 20151 votes

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Right now yi isn't obnoxious, can be focused down, cc'ed and does a great at taking tanks down since his role is melee carry

Yeah but it's a bit sad that he can like, destroy a 400 armor 4k HP Nasus with 800 stacks just because he true damages him to death so fast. Like, AD has stronger synergies (crit, lifesteal, arpen) but also more counterbuild options (armor). I feel it's healthier.

KONO RUBICK DAAug 13, 20151 votes

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Yeah but it's a bit sad that he can like, destroy a 400 armor 4k HP with 800 stacks just because he true damages him to death so fast. Like, AD has stronger synergies (crit, lifesteal, arpen) but also more counterbuild options (armor). I feel it's healthier.

so what? yi countering slows is not allowed to kill nasus? hold on, rammus is op then, he can kill yi in 3 seconds with thornmail oh wait rammus counters autoattackers? nerf him pls

SasogwaAug 13, 20151 votes

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so what? yi countering slows is not allowed to kill nasus? hold on, rammus is op then, he can kill yi in 3 seconds with thornmail oh wait rammus counters autoattackers? nerf him pls

usual crit Yi gets beaten by both. Sated yi shits on both. Though ofc Rammus remains a teamfight counter thanks to his taunt

KONO RUBICK DAAug 13, 20151 votes

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usual crit Yi gets beaten by both. Sated yi shits on both. Though ofc Rammus remains a teamfight counter thanks to his taunt

what are you talking about? devourer yi is all about procing brk and get armor pene with youmu and whisper. CRIT yi does way more damage on squshies since his Q crit, and his passive also crit

SasogwaAug 13, 20151 votes

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what are you talking about? devourer yi is all about procing brk and get armor pene with youmu and whisper. CRIT yi does way more damage on squshies since his Q crit, and his passive also crit

actually, Yi classic build is a lot about tank melting : youmuu bork + lw or bc was a classic for a long time. And if that is not tank busting, what is. Shouldn't have said crit Yi because it's confusing, I meant lane Yi (you usually get IE last so yea there's a bit of crit but most of that is arpen/botrk)

Yosuke ApperuAug 13, 20151 votes

Yay a chance to say if they remove yi's true damage it wouldn't be fair for vayne to have it. Remove them both please? :D

TehNACHOAug 13, 20151 votes

A melee carry kills tanks fast?

Not just a melee carry but the premier melee carry in terms of raw damage?

No way, how could that possibly be.

SasogwaAug 13, 20151 votes

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A melee carry kills tanks fast?

Not just a melee carry but the premier melee carry in terms of raw damage?

No way, how could that possibly be.

Actually a slight nerf would not remove his potential to kill tanks fast, it would just compensate from the sated devourer multiplicating that true damage scaling by adding phantom true damage autoattacks. Yi killed tanks fast before that already.

Keep in mind that I do not suggest to remove true damage or highly nerf it. Just 'compensate'. And actually doing a powershift because I'd buff the AD steroid instead. Still, since the AD steroid is removed in favour of true damage when we activate E, maybe doing a buff with some % of this AD remains when you activate E could help.