OP champs such as Lee Sin/Zed/Yasuo takes skills to play? Wrong. Reason below:

Fraggleroc··1 votes·1,761 views

It takes more skills to lane an underpowered champ such as Gangplank/Garen/Sion vs them. Try it, Rito.

pls, Rito... I know u love showy 'skills' from those champs on display but they need a bit more nerfs during laning phase.

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Nausicäa 2 votes

Wait what Yasuo is OP?

I know you are bronze without looking you up.

He has the lowest win rate in the game buddy.

ScurvyNave1 votes

Win rate is affected by more than just a champions power. Its a pure statistic based off of how often he's played and how many of those times he loses. It could simply be a bunch of bronze players seeing one good yasuo player wrecking face, try to play him themselves, and therefore lose hard.

Overall I just think win rate isn't a very reliable way to judge a champions power. There are too many factors affecting a win not just champ select.

Incognonymous2 votes

The gap between mana users and resourceless champs is pure insanity. There's nothing hard about spamming tornadoes/sonic waves/shurikens until you can all in with your ridiculous mobility. That's not skill. That's Riot winning the game for you.

DarthSpectrum1 votes

Have you actually tried to playing Garen or Jarvan against Zed, Yasuo or Lee Sin?

There is a reason people don't play Yasuo top lane anymore; he is wrecked by every other melee champion in game with equal farm. Yasuo has less health than most ADCs and Wind Wall is useless unless the enemy has a ranged cast.

The same argument goes for Zed, he is played mid because death mark can delete squishies if they are below 75%. However, against a champion such as Garen who can silence him on arrival or Jarvan who may leap away, he isn't that great.

On the other hand, one may stake an argument for Lee Sin's case as he has built in regeneration, execute, and gap closer. However, he is still the only one among the 3 champions who is frequently played top.

I understand that their elaborated kit might cause some confusion the first few times you lane against them, but please realize that half the "underpowered' champions you listed can and will beat the over powered ones with just a touch of skill.

Fraggleroc1 votes

"A touch of skill" ... really? Have u tried using these old champs to play against the newer ones lately? I play mainly Gp/Garen/Sion/Jarvan... it's hard vs anyone from Nidalee to Riven, Renekton, Shyvana... list goes on. Have u any idea how hard it is to lane against them without jungler help?

If Riot is not revamping these old underpowered champs any time soon... they should remove these champs from the circuit. And no, the Sion update does not count- it merely made him worse.

Fraggleroc1 votes

I suck because I kept playing these champs... take the road less travelled. Take the loss- use underpowered champs.

I dare u to use only these champs for a month. Owning in mid with akali is boring for me.

Fraggleroc1 votes

Or try Teemo top... it works in 10% of the games... but using regular top such as Irelia will get that probability up a whole lot more.

Try the old top champs... that were designed for top but with skillsets that barely do anything! /RANT

Fraggleroc1 votes

Don't downvote my posts when u've never played said champs- "Jarvan can just 'leap away' from Zed?"... Please try that matchup.

dunk is my life1 votes

downvote for saying yas op and j4 up LMAO wtf is that thread

Fraggleroc1 votes

Maybe Jarvan isnt the best example. So i've removed him. But try the other 3. It's 'fun'.

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