She was pretty strong before her passive rework, but now that it's live... she's a bit strong. She is too safe. When melees jump on her, she presses W and gets aftershock. Then she Q's and either E's at them or away to kill or live. Just too safe. Maybe reduce her damage or nerf her hp per level.
JavelinJoe2 votesWell, she is not meant to be much of an assassin burst mage or a super tank. She is more of a control mage, so countering you diving her is kinda her specialty. Also going melee into her is usually not a good choice, she counters that match-up specifically hard because of her kit. But she is slower than many champions and also weak to ranged poke when she cant get to the champion to counter (ex: Xerath).
Monstermushmush1 votesWell, she is not meant to be much of an assassin burst mage or a super tank. She is more of a control mage, so countering you diving her is kinda her specialty. Also going melee into her is usually not a good choice, she counters that match-up specifically hard because of her kit. But she is slower than many champions and also weak to ranged poke when she cant get to the champion to counter (ex: Xerath).
Ah I see. Then maybe Riot can nerf her early game a tiny bit.
MrFawknSunshine2 votesshe dont scale for shit, she has early game and cc that is her kit. she ends up with some of the worst AP scaling in the game
ƒrostγ1 votesshe dont scale for shit, she has early game and cc that is her kit. she ends up with some of the worst AP scaling in the game
That's not true tho. Not counting her passive, she has 220% ap scaling, that's not bad at all. All of her spells are aoe as well.
MrFawknSunshine1 votesi play liss and have for a few seasons. she ends up typically with her normal build about 300 ap
when other MAGES are closer to 400-450
ƒrostγ1 votesi play liss and have for a few seasons. she ends up typically with her normal build about 300 ap
when other MAGES are closer to 400-450
Same here. I have 700k mastery points on Liss, so I can confirm that's not true, unless you're building 2-3 defensive items. In mid-lategame you don't even need R to solo kill a squishy target with the right build.
Its risky to give more damage to her due to the nature of her kit. Even now, a fed Lissandra feels really oppressive to play against, just imagine her with higher burst. That would be broken af.
Binding Eclipse2 votesIf you're playing melee and jumping on a Lissandra, it isn't the Lissandra's fault that you're losing.
Like come on.
Frozen Diva1 votesThat's her niche. A melee counter. Keep in mind that she lacks the dmg AND the tankiness to pay for her CC.