@Riot is it time to Bring back Pox Arcana?

D2Vincent··27 votes·1,316 views

With talk of Riot Changing Rylai's to one of at least 2 different variations (one being a High AP/CDR option, the other being a defensive Utility option), I've decided it'd be better off being the defensive utility option. The problem is, is that it leaves Morello's being the ONLY 100+ AP option (I mean there's Mejai's, but that's really if you are skilled enough to be able snowball that much), and IMO mages will need another core item in case Morello's isn't the best option. So while I was making a thread about a NEW item, I came across the items from the old Black Market Brawlers game mode and noticed POX ARCANA, the Mage option that gives Morello-like stats. After some consideration, I've decided that if Rylai's is gonna be changed into a situational tank option, this is gonna be the replacement core item for the job.

I've reconfigured the stats for Pox Arcana to adjust for it's pricing and stats, so here we go:

ITEM: POX ARCANA

Cost: 3000G

Builds out of item 1058, item 3802 + 850G

Stats:

100 AP 400 Mana

UNIQUE Passive - 20% CDR

UNIQUE PASSIVE – POX: Applies a stack of Pox for 10 seconds whenever you deal ability damage, stacking up to 5 times.

UNIQUE ACTIVE – DISEASE HARVEST: Deals 100 magic damage plus 20 (+5% AP) per stack of Pox (maximum of 200 (+25% AP)) to all nearby enemies affected by Pox, and restores 5% of your maximum mana for every Pox stack harvested. 60 second cooldown.


This item would make a potentially good item for AoE Mages for it's active and perhaps not as much as good for assassins since they mostly deal single target damage anyway. While it doesn't give the Mana regen/GW like Morello's does, it gives a new source of damage.

What do you guys think, would this make a good option? Please give Feedback where available! Thank you for reading this idea :)

26 Comments

Malicious Metal11 votes

I loved this item!

It would actually be a great way to introduce another high AP option for mages and thus allow Riot to just make Rylais a defensive option^^

Wheatloaf1 votes

We all know you have ulterior motives here :>

Justified ulterior motives, but ulterior motives nonetheless.

Meep Man6 votes

I would be really interested in bringing in not only Pox Arcana, but also Netherstride Grimoire, the Murksphere line of items, and Staff of Flowing Water.

Staff of Flowing Water 1600 Gold item 1026 + item 1057 + 30 Gold +50 Ability Power +40 Magic Resist UNIQUE Passive- River Dancer: While in the river, grants +30% Movement Speed over 2 seconds and regenerate 0.5% of your missing mana every second. (Intended to be for Roaming Supports and AP Middle Laners) Bard Ivern Katarina Kassadin

Netherstride Grimoire 3100 Gold item 1058 + item 3802 + 950 Gold +90 Ability Power +550 Mana UNIQUE Passive- Malice: Gain 20% Movement Speed for 2 seconds whenever you deal ability damage. (Intended to be for AP Bruisers, select AP Assassins, DoT Mages, and Control Mages) Chogath Ekko Brand Lissandra

(Too lazy to make stat adjusted versions so as to not be OP versions of the Murksphere line)

D2Vincent5 votes

This sounds like an interesting idea. If I may make a quick adjustment to Grimoire however:

2800G

Builds out of item 3802 + item 3113 + 1050G

70 AP 350 Mana +5% Movespeed

Same Passive.

This way it's more of a niche item that is synergistic with Luden's Echo/Runic Echoes (like how Rylai's is Synergistic with Liandry's, but they're not necessarily needed together)

50000000000000001 votes

And it has the MS item building into it!

TequilaZombie2 votes

550 Mana and 20% extra mov speed whenever I deal ability damage?

I can see a Singed troll build with it!

dapositiveviking1 votes

that isn't troll, that'd almost be mandatory

LankPants2 votes

UNIQUE Passive- Malice: Gain 20% Movement Speed for 2 seconds whenever you deal ability damage. (Intended to be for AP Bruisers, select AP Assassins, DoT Mages, and Control Mages)

That cannot coexist with Protobelt. I'd say it is the better item and I'd prefer it over Protobelt but you cannot have both.

Baron of Bread1 votes

I don't know about not being able to coexist. Malice is more useful for kiting or running away after attacking, while the Protobelt is much more about getting into range (or adding burst) for shorter range mages and assassins.

Drahcir1 votes

I can see it now, staff of flowing water on river shen new OP?

Venedictos1 votes

Netherstride Grimoire looks like an item people would stack with Rylais to become invincible.

IGotScuttleCrabs4 votes

I loved BMB. Wish they'd bring a lot of the items back. The deceiving one was neat. The support one that gave you gold for shielding. The ap one that chunked turrets. The ad ones that did the triple shot and the stacking ad one (those two were kinda broken but cool).

Hell I'd love to play with the customizable minions again. Now that Doom Bots came back BMB is my next RGM that I want to see.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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I loved BMB. Wish they'd bring a lot of the items back. The deceiving one was neat. The support one that gave you gold for shielding. The ap one that chunked turrets. The ad ones that did the triple shot and the stacking ad one (those two were kinda broken but cool).

Hell I'd love to play with the customizable minions again. Now that Doom Bots came back BMB is my next RGM that I want to see.

Trickster's Glass was such a fun item that I would use it even on AD champions (of course it was a fun mode so it didn't really matter, but I wouldn't obviously do that in a serious game).

Shadow Hazard4 votes

There are a lot of items I think should come back from that mode even if tweaked.

Wheatloaf3 votes

Worth pointing out that we still have Luden's and Deathcap as 100+ AP items (and technically Archangel's), though Rylai's leaving that space could still hurt the ecosystem. Replacing the utility option with a different utility option is probably the better choice, but!! Pox doesn't overlap with Luden's as much as it might due to Luden's being way better on poke.

Another thing to remember is we've also been in need of a second 20% CDR mage item, which Pox originally was.

Evewynn1 votes

As long as the CDR is reduced. It should be able to supplement Morello's (like rylais is) not replace it. There's too many CDR options as is; way too easy to go over 40%.

Troll for Trump1 votes

I don't think it should be whenever you deal ability dmg, but whenever you "hit" an ability. So each person hit by a Brand ult would get a pox stack, but you wouldn't basically be perma-pox stacked by his passive, as his passive is DoT.

Anyways, this item would need some sort of countermeasure for dot.

Hammermancer1 votes

tbh everything about bmb was awesome, wish they'd bring the whole damned game mode back as the core game of lol

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

Eh, the mode could use some tweaks if so, though I would like it if they made an item that would allow you to customize a minion into one of the BMB minions.

FantasySniper1 votes

Would be OP on Ryze, I think, but otherwise I would love to see this item on the Rift.

NineTailedMystic1 votes

Yes. Please. God, I'm hard. This was my favorite item from BMB.

Spoofghoul1 votes

i loved the puppeteer item

Stats +250 health +25 magic resistance +50% base health regeneration +20% cooldown reduction Passive Unique – Mana Font: Restores 2% of your missing mana every 5 seconds. Unique: Basic attacks mark champions with a string for 6 seconds, which breaks if they move more than 1000 units away. Active Unique: Pulls all marked champions up to 250 units toward you. 45 second cooldown. Recipe Chalice of Harmony item + Kindlegem item + 250 Gold Cost 2200 Gold

it was brilliant on Sion passive

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

I Would love staff of flowing water back as well it would be a great item for supports Sona Nami Bard it helps them roam and ward i would also love the support item that shields an ally and gives you gold for the shield if it breaks it would be so good for supports as well and it could be strong because no solo laners can use it without someone with them

AirKingNeo1 votes

The game does not need more 20% CDR items.

NineTailedMystic1 votes

Maybe if they take off some other CDR? I'd do anything for this item to come back.

AirKingNeo1 votes

I can agree, but also make this item more Kayle viable. So like, higher base less scaling.

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