Daily reminder: There is still no compensation for AFKs even during your series

Darth Sidiouss·Mar 28, 2017·36 votes·1,417 views

No i am unworthy perhaps for gold 2 because my decides to afk rage quit. I worked hard to get here riot i find it such a slap in the face that i receive NO compensation, technically its your fault because **YOUR matchmaking system **give me i never asked for him on my team? idc if you cant reverse the drop on my MMR or loss forgiven there are OTHER ways to compensate that , paid to win games often compensate by rewarding the players when the issue is on them and if this isnt punished i get nothing out of this just aggravation and a waste of my effort in a series match for gold 2. Afks are one of the most frustrating aspects of this game and yet there is NEVER any compensation.

43 Comments

OleandervineMar 29, 20179 votes

It is not Riot's fault when someone AFKs. They do not purposefully place an AFK on your team, nor can they read the minds of human beings on the other side of a computer screen. To blame them so ignorantly for the faults of another completely independent, self aware human being would be just as stupid as you blaming the mayor of your town because noisy neighbors moved in next door. Grow up kid and deal with life. Don't blame others for 100% human problems that absolutely no one but the person doing the behavior can predict or control.

KaiokoMar 28, 20174 votes

I think the amount of harass it would create is honestly just not worth it.

Troll for TrumpMar 29, 20172 votes

If you make it loss forgiven, people will abuse it. Which is stupid, but it makes sense.

Make it so you can leave without punishment if a person has afk'd for more than 3 minutes.

GayFluffyUnicornMar 30, 20171 votes

How will they abuse it? You think someone will save his team's LP and risk getting permabanned?

Troll for TrumpMar 30, 20171 votes

Yep, and that's the concern people bring up with all these things; that they could do that (especially w/ premades).

Even one game could be important(for promos)

SwiftKitten88Mar 28, 20171 votes

honestly i still cant this hasn't been addressed... riot CLEARLY knows when you have an afk... it mean their name is GREYED OUT in post game and the only option you have is "report", if you afk a big freaking message pop up on your screen saying "hey your afk"

but there is ZERO reason to make a solo/duo ranked player lose lp when your system CLEARLY knows you had an AFK.

how hard would it be to make the AFK (and his duo) lose ALL the LP from the team or at LEAST some of it? there is no point in taking LP from players who clearly had next to zero change of winning....

i mean riots system is designed to make a EVEN 5v5 match. IF that systems is actually working properly ... then it SHOULD be next to impossible to win a 4v5.

i mean there are NO downsides to this.

you not going to FORCE anyone to "AFK" to by raging at them because they would lose MUCH more LP and they would never agree to it and u would just get yourself banned.

your never going to "swap afks" in a duo becuase if either you or your partner afk.. you BOTH still lose lp.. just the other 3 player who weren't with you don't.

its a stupid simple solution and its stupid why this hasn't been implemented

JoseraphMar 28, 20171 votes

There would still be abuse cases. If a friend plays with you on an alt and things went south, they could just disconnect and tank the L. A possible way for this to work were for it to not work within duo's, or to make Ranked a true Solo Que environment.

Ps: if I'm not wrong, dc's do take some percentage of the LP you lose

SwiftKitten88Mar 28, 20172 votes

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There would still be abuse cases. If a friend plays with you on an alt and things went south, they could just disconnect and tank the L. A possible way for this to work were for it to not work within duo's, or to make Ranked a true Solo Que environment.

Ps: if I'm not wrong, dc's do take some percentage of the LP you lose

even if he was on an alt BOTH players in the duo would still lose the LP if ONE of them AFKed..

Skins ProjectMar 29, 20172 votes

sooooo punish the friend for what isn't their fault.........

ninjaroxasMar 29, 20172 votes

Well they are trying to abuse the system so it is both their faults

Skins ProjectMar 29, 20173 votes

What if someone actually had to go?

What if someone on my friends list hits me up and says "Duo?"

And I say yes.

Should I be punished for that friend?

With EXTRA Lp loss?

It Hertz When IPMar 29, 20173 votes

Yes. You'll lose it once, theoretically learn your lesson and stop playing with that friend, and bam, problem solved.

Skins ProjectMar 29, 20173 votes

Hmmm... What if... THEY HAD TO GO FOR ONCE?

Like oh idk.. Their dad's in the hospital and they were rushing to go make sure everything is ok.

(Sudden things happened)

Really?

Your saying ditch a friend just because something came up in real life once?

The entire problem is that you don't know IF the afk is or isn't on purpose.

Someone could never afk for years, then afk once because something came up. Your solution is to punish anyone playing with them? The people playing with them are just as punished as you are. MORE if you know that they're duoing because of course your going to flame them the rest of the game. #lolcommunity

GayFluffyUnicornMar 30, 20171 votes

Well then they lost a few virtual points in a videogame. Where is the problem? You have to leave you get punished. There are 4 other players on the team who wasted time and effort for someone who afks. We can't care about what is happening to other people. And i guess it does not happen often that your dad ends up in the hospital. 95% of afks are ragequits anyways. And point still stands: you afk? get punished no matter your reasoning. I think xyou will survive one punishment due to actual IRL stuff. Stop defending afks, trolls and other disgusting humans who only waste your time out of selfishness or lack of accomplishments in life.

Skins ProjectMar 30, 20171 votes

Wait wtf.

You read this comment and still posted your other one???

WTF?

Yes 4 people lost what the solution here is that you should punish that person (that isn't a problem) but also punish the friend who's already as you mentioned PUNISHED being that they are one of the 4.

I don't think that it's wrong to punish someone who afks. No matter why. I find it wrong that people just want to be spared from lp loss from it If what you said is true "95% of afks are ragequits anyways" then at least 50% ragequit due to the team literally flaming them out of the game or the game is lost (I'm not saying I don't believe in comebacks) but when the enemy's at your nexus turrets and your 40 kills behind, you might survive another 10 minutes but really?

I'm just saying that I have PERSONALLY SEEN people bullied out of games.

I'm saying that if you implement this it will be abused.

The duo situation is one.

Bullying is another.

SwiftKitten88Mar 29, 20172 votes

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sooooo punish the friend for what isn't their fault.........

its their fault for Queing with them? i mean if i had a "freind" that kept afking " they wouldn't be my "friend" for long. and if they were an IRL friend i wouldn't play with then in ranked unless i made damn sure they werent going to afk..

Skins ProjectMar 29, 20172 votes

Never said kept afking.....

Let's say your friend's father had a heart attack and went to the hospital. (Without your friends knowlage) The hospital calls them mid game, oh shit you just got punished for what was real life....

If they were and IRL friend once again, same problem.

Someone could never afk for 3 years and have something come up.

...

Soooo punish the friend that's already getting flamed by the teammates?

SSJTribeMar 29, 20171 votes

I'd say yes for sure, that case is extremely rare, and the system would be well worth it for those rare times when real life occurred.

If 9/10 afk's are ragequits, and 1/10 is a real life emergency (I feel like this is overly generous) Wouldn't it be worth it for the one real life emergency if the other 9/10 times your LP was saved?

Skins ProjectMar 29, 20171 votes

No not really.

The thing is fine as it is now in my honest opinion.

This really just feels like a scrapegoat situation.

especially considering most ragequits are after the game has been "lost" This feels like a srapegoat situation more than a "save lp" situation.

SSJTribeMar 30, 20171 votes

I don't really see how it is a scapegoat. A scapegoat is a person who is unfairly blamed for something that others have done.

If someone leaves, and the team loses because of it, it really is the leaver's fault. The other 4 people should not be punished (as much) because of this leaver. Even if it was a real life emergency (realistically maybe 1/100 or 500).

Skins ProjectMar 30, 20171 votes

Uh I posted another comment somewhere else that answers that.

So what if it isn't fine. The proposed system is worse. That is all I'm saying.

Afks fall into two categories Actually AFKS-Due to IRL Give up-They gave up a lost game

While I do think that someone who actually gave up should be punished, it's being more of a scrapgoat situation.

I have SEEN people bully people out of games. Rewarding people for doing so is not reasonable, if anything your encouraging this sort of behavior.

IF the enemy team is 40 kills ahead and at your base and it's only like 15 mins in, someone might afk after failing a surrender vote. Why should the other 4 be excluded from the game that they lost for the team?

I get that it's annoying to get afks. I'm just saying that any solution will be abusive and abused. The system is unperfected as it is, but it's damn well the best your going to get.

SSJTribeMar 30, 20171 votes

That's fine. Unlike several of the people here, I'm ok with "agreeing to disagree". There's most certainly not a perfect solution to this problem.

Skins ProjectMar 30, 20171 votes

Fair nuff :p

GayFluffyUnicornMar 30, 20171 votes

If your "friend" afks in a ranked game he is playing with you you have the wrong sort of friends and maybe shouldn't play with them.

Skins ProjectMar 30, 20171 votes

What the fuck.. Read 4 comments below

Hmmm... What if... THEY HAD TO GO FOR ONCE?

Like oh idk.. Their dad's in the hospital and they were rushing to go make sure everything is ok.

(Sudden things happened)

Really?

Your saying ditch a friend just because something came up in real life once?

The entire problem is that you don't know IF the afk is or isn't on purpose.

Someone could never afk for years, then afk once because something came up. Your solution is to punish anyone playing with them? The people playing with them are just as punished as you are. MORE if you know that they're duoing because of course your going to flame them the rest of the game.

#lolcommunity

notice me Sin piMar 29, 20171 votes

it's definitely fair to 4vs5 in ur promos tho "u deserve bronze if u cant win against plats n diamonds" - rito

GlîtchyMar 29, 20171 votes

Riot, make it that we lose LESS LP because of AFK's, because I'm sick of having my jg rage quit just because their first camp was interrupted by Shaco and Evelynn

Darth SidioussMar 29, 20171 votes

idc if you cant reverse the drop on my MMR or loss forgiven there are OTHER ways to compensate that

Im not saying at all to make the match loss forgiven im saying Riot could potentially give us a chest maybe? an icon for free? just SOMETHING to compensate the AFK experience in ranked queue.

Skins ProjectMar 29, 20172 votes

2 man Q. 1 dodges,,,, #how2farm

ninjaroxasMar 29, 20171 votes

Make it so the while premade is punished

Skins ProjectMar 29, 20173 votes

Really?

Soooooo

Every time there is a premade that DOESN'T do it on purpose... Punish the second person???

The second person is just as screwed over as you are. But instead of just taking the LP loss they now take EXTRA lp loss. Over double of what it usually is?

Please.

If you get hit by a baseball in the eye, sure it sucks, you did nothing to deserve it, but what are you going to do? Beat up the person who did it? Even if it as on accident? Oh crap they had a friend, are you gonna beat both of them up now?

Get used 2 it.

Shit happens.

"Dry Your Tears"

And SUCK IT UP.

FirstWorldProblems...

ninjaroxasMar 29, 20171 votes

Ok then tell me a way to make it work instead of complaing.

There is no way to make everyone happy. If you make it so only the one to afk gets punished then people will abuse it, if you make it so the whole premade takes it then if anyone has to go the whole premade gets punished for nothing, if you keep it the same then everyone on the team is punished for an afk.

You can't have your cake and eat it too

Skins ProjectMar 29, 20172 votes

I'm saying it won't work.

There's nothing you can do but punish whomever afked. Even if real life does come up. (Being that leaver buster is only if you have like 2-3 left games in quick succession it honestly isn't a problem if someone does leave due to real life)

All the argument you have is, I DON'T WANT TO BE PUNISHED LETS FIND SCRAPEGOAT!

When that doesn't work due to the inherit flaws.

FUCK THE SECOND PERSON NO MATTER AS LONG AS I DONT GET PUNISHED

The system is fine as it is.

If someone afks sucks for you.

Deal with it.

Ever gone to work and someone you needed the help of was sick?

Oh shit, what are you going to do?

Fire the bitch?

No.

There's sick days.

Same as how this game works. If you leave 2 much, you get "fired" or punished. If you leave occasionally your just using sick days for things that come up. What your asking is that you should get a bonus because that person was missing for lord knows what.

FUCKING SUCK IT UP.

ninjaroxasMar 29, 20171 votes

Scapegoat a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others, especially for reasons of expediency.

A scapegoat for what?

If someone is home sick from work do all the employees get punished?

No.

Why should four people get punished for what one person did?

Right now trolls can also abuse the system. I've had people give first blood before the minions even came (they didn't fight back) Then afk so we couldn't remake.

The system is not fine.

Skins ProjectMar 29, 20171 votes

Lol.

So what if it isn't fine. The proposed system is worse. That is all I'm saying.

Afks fall into two categories Trolls-Honestly though most would rather keep feeding so not really Actually AFKS-Due to IRL Give up-They gave up a lost game

While I do think that someone who actually gave up should be punished, it's being more of a scrapgoat situation.

I have SEEN people bully people out of games. Rewarding people for doing so is not reasonable, if anything your encouraging this sort of behavior.

IF the enemy team is 40 kills ahead and at your base and it's only like 15 mins in, someone might afk after failing a surrender vote. Why should the other 4 be excluded from the game that they lost for the team?

And yes if someone is sick everyone else does in theory get punished.

If you and 2 other people need to finish a presentation/concept analysis (Just something of the sort) And one is sick, and that one who is sick is the only one who has access to the resources that you need. Oh shit you just lost a day that you needed to be working!

I get that it's annoying to get afks. I'm just saying that any solution will be abusive and abused. The system is unperfected as it is, but it's damn well the best your going to get.

MannnyMar 29, 20171 votes

The issue is easily solvable, check to see if someone AFKs, punish the AFK, check to see if someone was in promos, game is not counted, done.

WráthfulMar 29, 20171 votes

if u afk or make your team lose intentional = - 20 / - 30 LP for the afk/problematic player regardless of mmr, Small amount of LP reward for winning team and NO LP Loses or gains for the losing team if afking occures for at least 5 mins after the 3 min mark when remake occures or if someone does smthing like running down mid or simply griefing alot same punishment as for afking.

WráthfulMar 29, 20171 votes

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if u afk or make your team lose intentional = - 20 / - 30 LP for the afk/problematic player regardless of mmr, Small amount of LP reward for winning team and NO LP Loses or gains for the losing team if afking occures for at least 5 mins after the 3 min mark when remake occures or if someone does smthing like running down mid or simply griefing alot same punishment as for afking.

really soft suggestions subject to change if this ever gets under consideration.

Votable JesterMar 29, 20171 votes

People could use that to spite the winning team, reducing their lp gain.

AnhartaminMar 29, 20171 votes

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GayFluffyUnicornMar 30, 20171 votes

BAd luck my ass.

Project omenMar 29, 20171 votes

Not that I support rage quitting in the slightest, but think of it like this: If you deserve to climb, you will get that promotion sooner or later. We've all been in those games, no one can do anything about it, so try not to feel too bad about it.