Pantheon is so fun to lane against

Moonfall Saber·Nov 23, 2017·102 votes·5,814 views

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91 Comments

ModAcademy KaynNov 23, 201773 votes

I'm impressed you survived that many Q's before he went in with W

SpecterVonBarenNov 24, 201723 votes

I'm surprised the Pantheon had enough mana to throw that many Q's.

InfernapeNov 24, 201719 votes

The power of Manaflow Band

AirKingNeoNov 24, 20175 votes

Manaflow Band is retarded right now. Legit playing Kayle and I never EVER run out of mana, EVEN SPAMMING HEAL ON COOLDOWN.

KAYLE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE MANA PROBLEMS!

CraktiteNov 23, 201722 votes

Kassadin is Pantheon in midlane + magic shield x)

BoilTheOilNov 23, 201712 votes

At least Kassadin Q doesn't hurt as much and has a longer cooldown

flibitydooNov 24, 20172 votes

he also can regenerate his mana using his W and he does this while hitting a pretty strong mid-lategame

DaNinadNov 23, 201722 votes

"Lol just stay under tower for 20 minutes"

LiteUpSketchersNov 24, 201710 votes

What tower?

koshkyraNov 24, 201720 votes

"Tower" is an ancient word that old league players use to describe a structure that existed in the game around 2015.

LiteUpSketchersNov 24, 20171 votes

I see

Immovable OzenNov 24, 20175 votes

it used to keep you safe. now its just a pile of rubble waiting to fall over.

General Esdeath Nov 24, 201718 votes

Dude come on man just sit under tower and miss exp/cs for 25 minutes and he'll Fall Off™

AirKingNeoNov 24, 20172 votes

plus Pantheon's late game isn't even that bad. Chunks bruisers to about 55% HP with his AoE plus fully stacks Cleaver so the adc kills you during the stun too.

DeadUnbornNov 24, 20171 votes

look at the win rate by game lenght...

http://champion.gg/champion/Pantheon/Top

0 HogapuNov 24, 20174 votes

lmao, 60%winrate between 0 and 20min 50% at 40min

DeadUnbornNov 24, 20171 votes

no look at the graph, past 40minutes it goes below 50%

Also His win rate as so high because he was a prime aery abuser which was busted last patch. You have to use context to read those graphs, not just look at two numbers and call it a day

DWSCALNHNov 24, 20173 votes

Yeah, but what games go past 40 mins now?

DeadUnbornNov 24, 20171 votes

The average game length according to riot is 35 minutes. By that time Pantheon has a 50% win rate and only goes lower from there.

Keep in mind I am not defending Pantheon, he needs a rework for sure. However it is not true that his late game is "good"

AirKingNeoNov 24, 20171 votes

Literally proves my point. He's not the shitty late game champion you claim.

DeadUnbornNov 24, 20171 votes

below 50% by the 35 min mark is not shitty?! even when he falls around 55% just 7 minutes before? LOL

DarkRoosterNov 23, 20179 votes

No no no this is way too unfinished. I wreck the enemy top laner till 6th level multiple times, while the poor lad is struggling to get a minion and a foothold in lane, i instantly hitting 6th ult mid lane, which i can almost do from top lane, wreck him while their top laner is probably flamed for not following, HAHAH LIKE HE COULD. Then i tele bot, when the next ult is up i ult again mid or bot for sure kills, occasionally i visit my defeated toplaner to score some extra gold off him.

When i hit late game i am completely worthless, though is still have ability to 3 hit every carry out there, Riot should definitely take a look at this champion.

AirKingNeoNov 24, 20172 votes

Pantheon's late game isn't god awful. Don't know why people even think that.

He's a got massively procing AoE to apply Cleaver to targets and has CC.

4th3t0sNov 24, 20172 votes

Mostly because games in the current meta don't even reach lategame

novac3721Nov 24, 20171 votes

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No no no this is way too unfinished. I wreck the enemy top laner till 6th level multiple times, while the poor lad is struggling to get a minion and a foothold in lane, i instantly hitting 6th ult mid lane, which i can almost do from top lane, wreck him while their top laner is probably flamed for not following, HAHAH LIKE HE COULD. Then i tele bot, when the next ult is up i ult again mid or bot for sure kills, occasionally i visit my defeated toplaner to score some extra gold off him.

When i hit late game i am completely worthless, though is still have ability to 3 hit every carry out there, Riot should definitely take a look at this champion.

passive - also grants immunity from displacement when blocking Q - becomes a skillshot W - becomes an AA empower like Ekko E but grants movespeed and tenacity while active E - unchanged

ult - gains the effect where Pantheon blocks the next attack/abilitie (s) equal to the number of enemy champs he hits with the impact.

how broken would it be?

NCBucketsNov 24, 20171 votes

downvoting because i wouldnt put it past riot

Bionic JellyfishNov 23, 20174 votes

Me? I go Maokai into Pantheon. It works decently well. The reason I take Mao is because of his passive and the fact that he is an ability based tank. Whenever Pantheon hits you with that counterplay filled q, it lowers you passive cooldown. let him push you in and use your passive to heal when he is out of range. pantheon's passive shield does block Mao's autoattack, but Mao's passive will still proc. lastly, use your e to zone him out of shrubbery.

I GANK LANESNov 24, 20176 votes

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Me? I go Maokai into Pantheon. It works decently well. The reason I take Mao is because of his passive and the fact that he is an ability based tank. Whenever Pantheon hits you with that counterplay filled q, it lowers you passive cooldown. let him push you in and use your passive to heal when he is out of range. pantheon's passive shield does block Mao's autoattack, but Mao's passive will still proc. lastly, use your e to zone him out of shrubbery.

Strategic cognitive thought process on a lane opponent? Unacceptable on the boards gtfo

Red WreckageNov 24, 20175 votes

Moakai is a very healthy lane opponent as well, right?

fight toxin with toxin, got it. :)

Penta PenguinNov 24, 20171 votes

maoguy

PePsiLemoNNNov 23, 20173 votes

It's sad that this garbage gets upvoted.

GayFluffyUnicornNov 23, 201711 votes

It's sad this garbage is allowed to be OTPd into chall.

PePsiLemoNNNov 23, 20172 votes

If you actually believe that ... lul.

Me0wsticNov 23, 201711 votes

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/7c2l9i/top_20_keegun_1_pantheon_world_3_challenger/ [slayer-jinx-catface]

GayFluffyUnicornNov 25, 20172 votes

thank you kind sir for providing me that link again.

EschetonNov 23, 20173 votes

Now that you can no longer just get a runepage with 30 armor at lvl 1 and sustain with a shield, he can be a rough match-up.

5301Nov 24, 20173 votes

I just went to your op.gg and found that in the Singed vs Pantheon game your items were greedy as hell. I agree that Pantheon is oppressive but the first few items you bought were damage instead of armor... Also know that if you were playing anything that isn't Singed I would be telling you to buy a doran's shield since pretty much only Singed does proxy at 2 minutes

Let's look at what you bought: Start of the game: a doran's ring and 2 pots. If I remember correctly, Singed starts dark seal but I don't really care about this 2 minutes: boots... why not just get cloth armor? That helps you proxy too, and looking a the kill map on op.gg, it looks like you were proxying here 3 minutes: rejuv bead. Looking at the kill map on op.gg, it looks like you were proxying here. It also looks like you died to Pantheon here. It also looks like you died to Pantheon in the middle of lane at 4 minutes. A cloth armor would've helped here too, no? 7 minutes: blasting wand. I can't tell if you were laning or proxying here, but if you were laning, why not just go ninja tabi? Looking at the kill map, it looks like you died at the tribush at 8 minutes 10 minutes: amp tome. Not sure whether you buy this before or after you died to Pantheon but this is irrelevant for now I guess 12 minutes: you buy a health crystal, and I assume this is after you die to Pantheon. You bought your first defensive stat, this is good. Too bad you're too late By 14 minutes, you complete rylais and and boots of swiftness. However, you still don't have any armor. You also still do not have a corrupting pot, an extremely strong item, especially on Singed. You also bought swiftness that is only barely usable against... a Janna. That extra 15 movespeed and slow resist is useless. And when you decided that you were going to lane instead of continuing proxying, you didn't buy a doran's shield. Nice one

Pantheon is strong, especially in lane, but you didn't even try to do anything about his poke...

AirKingNeoNov 24, 20172 votes

Biased =/= Wrong

My Waifu VanillaNov 24, 20173 votes

DShield+Second Wind congratulations I made Pantheon do A LOT less damage.

Bobloser3555Nov 24, 20171 votes

pick Garen or Malph

My Waifu VanillaNov 25, 20172 votes

Counterpick does not equal counterplay. You don't always get the luxury of counterpicking your lane and thus their top laner could theoretically be red side summoner 5 (absolute last pick) meaning counterpicking hold no weight in an argument. Buying DShield and taking Second Wind gives absurd sustain to periodic poke and is available to every single champion on the roster.

Bobloser3555Nov 25, 20171 votes

thats true in addition its better to pick a champ you know how to play, I main Maokai and Garen so for me it's easy but if someone picks a Vayne top I will choose from the champs that I main rather than it needing to be a counter pick.

Julius EvolaNov 24, 20172 votes

So, if you are like 90 percent of league players you will fight and fight levels 1-3 in till you are 40% HP right? Then you QQ that Pantheon can flash on you and kill you with ignite right? You realize the game is more than winning levels 1-3 right? Pantheon has no ultimate and is gankable as F. Practice some patience and play around his very limited powerspike/playstyle.

Red WreckageNov 24, 20172 votes

yeah every pantheon just afk farms like Nasus if u dont touch him and will not throw a single point and click Q at u every time you are in range.

Moonfall SaberNov 25, 20171 votes

So when I got 39 farm 10 mins in thw game because I can't MOve out from under my tower (which doesn't matter anyway because pantheon can block a tower attack) that's not an issue of balance at all?

Pandemic PunchNov 24, 20172 votes

Yorick : I didn't notice Pantheon's corpse, I just thought he was another minion. Glad you said something or else I would have reported him for AFK

Malicious MetalNov 24, 20172 votes

I know it sounds like I'm just pushing my own agenda here but you should really give Mordekaiser a try. He hard counters pantheon with his Iron Man passive and outsustain's Panth's mana bar.

And once he grows bored of chucking Q's and wants to all in he'll just get shredded.

Clutch ThompsonNov 25, 20171 votes

Don’t forget to mention specifically that E will out range the spear so you can actually negate Panth’s Q if you hit him and/or the minion wave when he goes to throw it.

AND you can turn on W when he goes to jump on you

AznaktaXNov 24, 20171 votes

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/200681460?t=3h18m58s

Seems pretty accurate. XD