Trundle pillar, Fizz Troll pole, Veigar's event horizon, Blitzcrank and Thresh pull/hook. Just to name a few. Master Yi's meditate (a non ultimate ability) has a 35 second cooldown at all ranks (assuming he has 0% CDR obviously). Should some of these abilities have their cooldowns increased (perhaps as long as Master Yi's meditate)? I mean, if Master Yi's meditate can have more than a half minute cooldown, why can't other abilities get this treatment?
Slamurai Jack3 votesTake Veigars E off of there. He's a mage and thus exempt from reasonable balance discussion.
Alakalzam2 votesTo answer your question: No on all fronts.
Trídent2 votesBut you forgot to mention 70% of Yi's W cooldown is refunded if he helps kills an enemy champion. Fizz Troll Pole's CD could be raised a bit, but definitely not to 30 seconds. None of them would. Blitz and Thresh's could be raised slightly if they miss hooks, Trundle I can't say because I haven't played against one in a long time, and Veigar... really?
Hayaishi21 votesVayne's E, Ahri's Ult, Rank 3 Yasuo ult.
Shrek Luigi1 votesYi's meditate is a lot more potent of a skill than Trundle's Stink Pillar. The 30s cooldown is more than appropriate.
Varus' Q ramps down on CD per rank way too hard, I find. That guy can throw out a ton arrows at max rank and 45% CDR, it's ridiculously oppressive. Hopefully Riot doesn't change it because mid Varus is my scene, baby
Cloud2731 votes[{quoted}](name=Dunderlords OP,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AmKUBMTN,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-09T04:35:39.975+0000)
Yi's meditate is a lot more potent of a skill than Trundle's Stink Pillar. The 30s cooldown is more than appropriate.
Varus' Q ramps down on CD per rank way too hard, I find. That guy can throw out a ton arrows at max rank and 45% CDR, it's ridiculously oppressive. Hopefully Riot doesn't change it because mid Varus is my scene, baby
All you have to do is ignite him and his heal is useless. What are you supposed to do against a Trundle pillar? There's absolutely no way to fight against it. Trundle's pillar is just as powerful (if not more so than Yi's crappy heal).
Shrek Luigi1 votesBecause everybody runs ignite, and it's always up when you need it amirite?
Alakalzam1 votesAll you have to do is ignite him and his heal is useless. What are you supposed to do against a Trundle pillar? There's absolutely no way to fight against it. Trundle's pillar is just as powerful (if not more so than Yi's crappy heal).
Fight Trundle, not the pillar. I think that's where you're going wrong.
I should also note that for pretty much the entire game, Trundle's pillar has a 23 second cooldown, which is pretty long.
Chrome Raven1 votescondemn 100 percent. no adc should have that kind of self peel.
Zetto1 votesYes. Let's take the one of the squishiest champions in the game, and take his only tool for safety, which is a delayed skillshot that can be easily dodged by anyone with a dash, and can be bypassed entirely by certain champions that have blinks, and raise the CD.