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Next time you're doing major stuff to Malz, give him the WW treatment

Glory to God·12/31/2017, 11:16:59 PM·16 votes·1,328 views

And what I mean by this, is that his ult should be given some sort of counterplay, while some power should be put elsewhere. Because right now it's probably the single most non-intuitive and spell in the game, the enemy isn't allowed to be neither reactive or proactive (besides getting a item 3140 ). It's seriously absolutely scary how obnoxious this champion can be when strong (still remember the 2k16 Worlds/LCS games where Every. Damn. Player in Malzahar's enemy team HAD to buy a stupid item just because of him) and it's honestly sad seeing him being changed over and over again with no real purpose.

If you ask me, his ultimate should look like this:

Malzahar connects with the mind of the enemy champion for one second, time in which a tether is formed (around 900 range, if the enemy is too far the spell is cancelled), the Null Zone is opened and the target is slowed by X%. It then acts like his current ultimate, supressing the target and dealing damage for 3 seconds.

Now you're actually talking about interaction. The enemy is now allowed to try and break the tether by getting out of range or to CC Malzahar in order to cancel his channel, or at least get out of the Null Zone.

And one last thing, when you're buffing him to compensate, put emphasis on things that make the difference between the bad Malz and the good Malz. For example, his E reset on Q and R (yes I prefer the post-mage-update Malz because it's somewhat less "roll my combo on them and hope they die") is a good thing to go. Go ahead and use that, make each reset amplify the damage, for example.

IDK if you guys agree with me but this champion is completely out of modern gameplay standards and no band-aids can solve this.

28 Comments

Koutetsujô1/1/2018, 1:53:36 AM3 votes

I like how people try to defend malz I would like to have his Q ability irl so I can fking silence you

flibitydoo1/1/2018, 5:19:22 AM3 votes

"but muh he's a necessary evil to mobility"

even though his winrate against non-mobile champs is even worse than the mobile ones and if anything he makes non-mobile champs even worse by existing

SpookyNeedle1/1/2018, 5:56:37 PM3 votes

I hate malz don’t get me wrong, but there needs to be some point and click cc in the game in order to counter excessive mobility.

Athenes Lulu1/1/2018, 7:40:49 AM3 votes

On the topic of being "unable to break the tether"....

What if it acts like Morg's ult where you are slowed before you can't move? Or "grounded" can be a good one if we want to keep the fact that he still gets to fuck over assassins.

Oxyrotten12/31/2017, 11:22:54 PM2 votes

He can be counterpicked and has a poor laning phase until he gets some items. His ult has a range is single target and can be canceled. He is also a mage so silences and cc pretty much kills him.

I prefer old malz but I am glad he benefits from the movespeed increases.

Nyarlathοtep1/1/2018, 10:19:38 AM2 votes

I still love how you guys want malz ulti reworked while it is quite literally more or less the same since his release. Besides he isnt the only that that makes you buy a certain item. Fizz and zed force you to buy zhonyas.

warmcorntortilla1/1/2018, 12:30:48 PM2 votes

His kit is so boring and uninteractive. Before he had to actually babysit the minionwave with auto attacks to properly spread his visions, now he just plops those stupid voidlings down, and pushes/outfarms the enemy laner under turret. Before, he was punishable for doing that, because his passive was... uh, a single voidling, and not a spellshield that comes back up every 15 seconds.

I mean, his suppression is cancerous, sure, but that's not why he feels so bad to play against. He used to be pretty damn bad into long range mages, and could be outplayed hard by assassins. Now, he's pretty much immune to assassins (hard to get that combo off when he eats 90% of the damage of part of it, isn't it?) and is unpunishable by long-range mages because he can /still outpush them/, and he can do it from his tower, too. Are you ahead? Farm the wave with AA and zone them off cs and XP like an asshole, or push under tower and roam if you'd prefer that. Are you behind? Power farm until midgame and catch somebody with nether grasp, he is SO EASY to get back into the game with because of instant, point-and-click cc.

Jinzo Torrance1/1/2018, 6:41:12 PM1 votes

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the enemy isn't allowed to be neither reactive or proactive (besides getting a item 3140 ).

You can cast your CC while Malzahar is queueing his ultimate to cancel it or just QSS it like you said, there you have beaten Malzahar and can now burst him down while he waits for his E to come off CD so he can apply a DoT to you.

It's seriously absolutely scary how obnoxious this champion can be when strong (still remember the 2k16 Worlds/LCS games where Every. Damn. Player in Malzahar's enemy team HAD to buy a stupid item just because of him)

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IDK if you guys agree with me but this champion is completely out of modern gameplay standards and no band-aids can solve this.

Yes, you just give him a new passive and remove the safety of this one so he's more vulnerable to being stopped, poked down and ganked. It worked pre-rework, it will work now.