Morellonomicon in it's current state is unhealthy

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It is the allrounder rush item for most items AND reduces healing, which is kind of bullshit. From a diversity point of view it would make more sense to have:

  • an allrounder ap item (cdr, mana, ap)
  • niche healing reduction ap item (which would be situational, e.g. vs swain, mundo..)

It makes no sense to have the reduction on THE ONLY ONE early allrounder ap item.

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OurLestrade4 votes

The Grievous Wounds on what's meant to be a go-to standard spamming caster item is definitely something that doesn't make any sense.

Ultra Rapid Fyre3 votes

anyone rushing morellos will get 1 shot by any decent carry / assassin / damage dealing jungler

morellos also doesnt inflict grievous wounds until the target is BELOW 40% hp, so that point is kind of invalid

Its a very healthy item, you probably just lost a game, thats all

Marshbouy1 votes

Anyone in midlane pretty much oneshots the opponent past one item nowadays, it's not jsut a item 3165 thing.

Alesya3691 votes

morellos also doesnt inflict grievous wounds until the target is BELOW 40% hp, so that point is kind of invalid

Not exactly true as its passive is bugged.

anyone rushing morellos will get 1 shot by any decent carry / assassin / damage dealing jungler

Because everyone who buys morello ALWAYS gets matched against assassin champs... and what makes you unable to build like this Lost chaper -> Seeker's armguard/Negatron -> Morellonomicon???

It is retarded indeed that such generally powerful, rushable and extremely (I would say it is MOST) slot efficient also provides a specialized passive that is only ever useful against a certain small group of champions (or lifesteal heavy builds) who have any sort of healing in kit and completely useless against sustain-less team comps.

Marshbouy1 votes

okay, but what do you buff into it's place?

Big Lincoln1 votes

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Illâoi Evê Siôn1 votes

You buff Zhonia's and Rylai's to 80 Ability Power.

Marshbouy2 votes

That would start to bring in a whole host of other issues like the rylais fiasco of last season and zhonya's making midlane a lot harder for AD assassins.

Illâoi Evê Siôn1 votes

Do you really think Rylai's having 5 more Ability Power will cause it to be as strong as it was last season? Alternatively it could be reduced to 60 Ability Power and get more Health. Either way, Rylai's users will be happier.

And if Zhonia's was buffed, Mages who rush it would have Mana issues and would have to go back more often unless they get Lost Chapter first which takes care of most of their Mana issues. So Lost Chapter's passive would have to be nerfed. Now you have the options: Get a lower cost, less effective Morellonomicon-1 first and not have as many Mana issues, or get Zhonia's first and die less often but have to go back more often which reduces your map pressure and gives your Assassin opponent more freedom in roaming, farming or pushing. You can still get Lost Chapter first, but it won't be the same. If your opponent is someone like Vladimir you instead get Morellonomicon-2 first which isn't as powerful as option 1 but offers Grievous Wounds.

Plus, the old Zhonia's existed for a long time and Assasins were still powerful. I doubt they'll fall from grace just because their opponent has 10 more Ability Power. They have lots of strengths after all. And if Morellonomicon was nerfed to 80 and Rylai's buffed by 5 Mages will still have 5 less Ability Power.

Alesya3691 votes

If you removed that random Grievous Wounds passive NOBODY who builds this item would suffer from that change. IMO you could even take away 10% CDR because CDR is super accessible for past few seasons anyway.

About the lack of AP GW items, riot needs to rework this whole pile of shit, uncounterable and binary "win or lose" "mechanic" anyway.

Penns1 votes

Agreed nerf item 3165 and buff item 3001 item 3100 item 3157 item 3089 pl0x hehe xd

1374341 votes

It is not unhealthy per se, but it does suck that it is basically the required rush for almost every mage.

HeresyHorus1 votes

true, its either u rush it or strait out lose ur lane because u run out of mana after 2 casts and u have longer cds than the zed, talon, kata, jayce, riven, khazix and so on...

mana and longer cds are 2 massive inherent disadvantages none other than mages suffer.

and why ? its not like mages do THAT more damage than other casters.

go compare the numbers.

DU Baymax1 votes

I do kind of agree that it's weird for an item with grievous wounds to be a standard rush item for so many mages. Other than that I think it's fine, though.

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