Lets talk about nerfing Vayne

Saixos··2 votes·547 views

There have been a ton of posts in the past month about how strong Vayne is, how she's one of the most picked champions and still has a >50% win rate, how many players are frustrated playing against her, etc.

And we've had the cries for nerfs.

My question with this post is: HOW should we nerf Vayne, if we do?

I haven't seen any post give reasonable suggestions as to how Vayne should be nerfed. Do we want her early game to be weaker? Her late game? Her mid-game spikes to occur later? For me, I don't think her late game should have any difference at all, but her early game needs to be weaker. At the moment Vayne is relatively strong early since most early game ADCs have been weakened. In addition I think one of the frustrating things about Vayne is that she's difficult to punish in lane, especially for skillshot reliant supports.

My suggestion would be something like Tumble: Cooldown 6/5/4/3/2 -> 10/8/6/4/2 So that her early game and early-mid game have less autoattack resets to help her dodge skillshots and can be used less frequently/Vayne actually has to think about when to use her tumble rather than using it whenever she wants, but later in the game there's no difference.

That's just my suggestion, the point of this thread is not to discuss whether she should be nerfed, but how she should be nerfed. So, lets discuss in the replies, shall we?

4 Comments

Hexs Fortune1 votes

Morello said awhile back that vayne should really have 525 range. I'd start with that and see what happens. Her early game is supposed to be bad, yet she packs good early damage and higher than or equal AA range to the majority of adc's out there. Her mid and late are amazing. Keep the strengths, just hurt her early game a lil more so a single jungle gank doesn't allow her to snowball so hard early when she is already dominant mid and late

ArcticWolf241 votes

change the ad bonus on her q ( at max rank its the same ) this makes her less damage early

Hexs Fortune1 votes

Seeing as vayne is in 30+ percent of all games, expect downvotes. Ghostcrawler once said more people quit when OP is nerfed, than would have due to the imbalance in the first place

Yosuke Apperu1 votes

She needs something to replace her true damage. She also has the most self peel of any adc so when people say "but muh early weak game" they just need to stop saying it. It doesn't exist. Honestly her tumble being on 2 seconds is ridiculous as she can easily tumble 4+ times during her ult giving her invisibility each time. Sure you could throw a pink but she'll probably kill you anyways due to stupid damage XD Don't try running or she'll catch ye. Oh and never chaase her in the jungle regardless of her health because condemn then dead. I'm sorry dude, I'll be honest I'm entirely against vayne for multiple reasons. 1. True damage is a really stupid thing normally and even more stupid on a ranged hyper carry. 2 vayne mains are so damn toxic regardless if she's on your team or the enemy's and 3. All I see is vayne anymore, I forget that other adc's even exist. What's a twitch? Oh wait lucian is a thing? What in god's name is a varus? o.o

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