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Stormrazor should proc on GP's Q

Ultîma·5/3/2018, 5:24:06 PM·10 votes·8,230 views

Riot Endstep recently made a comment in this thread about the interaction between Stormrazor and Gangplank, where he explained that GP's Q would not interact with the rune since it supposedly isn't counted as a basic attack. There needs to be some immediate clarification about this issue because for all intents and purposes, GP's Q is counted as a basic attack in multiple instances throughout the game. To reiterate a few examples that I used in the thread;

GP's Q interacts with the following;

item 3077 UNIQUE – CLEAVE: Basic attacks deal (20% to 60% AD) physical damage to units around your target – (20% AD near the edge) (350 units radius).

item 3057 item 3078 UNIQUE – SPELLBLADE: After using an ability, your next basic attack within 10 seconds deals (100% base AD) on-hit bonus damage (1.5 second cooldown).

Kleptomancy - PASSIVE: After using an ability, your next basic attack within 10 seconds is enchanted. If the attack is used against a champion, you gain Gold 5 Gold. Occasionally, you will gain a consumable item instead. If you gain a consumable item while your inventory is full, the consumable will instead be consumed.and Grasp works with GP's Q.

Grasp of the Undying - PASSIVE: Dealing or receiving damage in the last 2 seconds generates one stack every second. At 4 stacks, your next basic attack, within 6 seconds, against an enemy champion deals 4% of your maximum health bonus magic damage, restores 2% of your maximum health, and permanently grants 5 bonus health. The empowered attack duration refreshes whenever dealing or receiving damage.

item 3147 UNIQUE – NIGHTSTALKER: After being unseen for at least 1 second,** your next basic attack** against an enemy champion deals 30 - 200 (based on level) bonus on-hit physical damage and Slow icon slows by 99% for 0.25 seconds. The enhanced attack lasts 5 seconds after being seen by an enemy champion.

item 3087 UNIQUE – SHIV LIGHTNING: Your next basic attack (on-attack) sparks lightning to up to 5 nearby units, dealing 60 - 140 (based on level) bonus magic damage.

Pantheon Aegis Protection: After attacking or casting spells 4 times, Pantheon will block the next incoming basic attack or turret attack.

Teemo 's Blinding Dart will force Gangplank's Q to "miss" just as it would with a regular basic attack.

Now as far as I know, Stormrazor will work with Yasuo. Yet Yasuo's Q does not get blinded by Teemo. In all instances, Gangplank's Q is more of an autoattack than Yasuo's. If anything, the interaction should be reversed.

Clearly, Parrrley should proc Stormrazor.

There is more information for be found also on the Gangplank Mains subreddit here.

Can we please get a proper Riot response about this?

26 Comments

Vid the Strange5/3/2018, 5:39:34 PM8 votes

Stormrazor's likely an on-attack buff, which is why Parrrley doesn't trigger it. Parrrley has a lot of properties that basic attacks do, but is still an ability cast rather than an actual basic attack. (GP's kit itself even makes this distinction since Parrrley doesn't apply Trial by Fire.)

On-attack effects are different from on-hit effects in that on-attacks actually require you to execute a basic attack.

Kilanost5/3/2018, 5:27:31 PM6 votes

do you know how unhealthy it would be if his q worked with that item? I think someone said it was play tested and they decided that it was toxic.

Automated Riven5/3/2018, 8:07:39 PM4 votes

Everything you mentioned is an on hit effect. As in, they are applied whenever a basic attack, or anything which applies on hit effects, hits the target. Gangplank q simply applies on hit effects. However it is not a basic attack. So something which applies on basic attack would not work unless it's coded as an on hit effect.

xxxMadLionxxx5/3/2018, 5:44:22 PM4 votes

Yea that bullshiit. Its the same none sense with Lucian passive and the way it stacks rageblade. Sometime I feel like riot doesn't even know their own game. I'd bet it works on Yasuo Q tho...

5050BS5/3/2018, 6:37:53 PM4 votes

Its bugged its not procing consistently on a lot of Empowered Auto attacks

BarveyHirdman5/3/2018, 11:41:01 PM3 votes

its league they just hate "gankplank" hope we see smething abt tht

Kaioko5/3/2018, 5:40:54 PM3 votes

From a concept standpoint I'd agree saying that it should proc on his Q since that's probably the most iconic ability that's considered a basic attack. You'd have to nerf so heavily though to make up for how the interaction would work with the double crit chance with the combination of of triforce procs, infinity edge and shyv procs.

My issue then is that you would pigeon hole him into building that item path no matter what. A Gangplank without IE would no longer be viable. Right now you can do fun things like tankplank with triforce and tank items among other builds.

Mr Mxyzptlk5/3/2018, 7:59:28 PM2 votes

Its a bug that there letting go through because they won't know how to deal with GP when his win rate sky rockets from this item. This is simply riot garbage developers giving GP special treatment even though from a logical standpoint his Q should be able to work with the new item.

Ifneth5/3/2018, 8:25:11 PM1 votes

As others have said, Stormrazor is On-Attack, specifically on-Crit, rather than On-Hit. Also, the effect of giving him the interaction would be toxic: GP could rush Stormrazor and have it off cooldown for a guaranteed crit on every Parrrrley and Barrel.

TempName548465/3/2018, 8:44:32 PM1 votes

if gps q would crit with it it would mean his barrels would as well, do you want 100% crit chance barrels at 1 item?

MetalGearTeemo5/3/2018, 8:53:58 PM1 votes

To this day I still prefer reliable but not a superstar pre-work gangplank vs the wack-a-mole barrel game. Its not engaging or fun to play against either.

xelaker5/3/2018, 9:42:55 PM1 votes

I'm ok with gp not getting back into the limelight

Sire Hippington5/3/2018, 7:11:05 PM1 votes

While i somewhat agree for the sake of clearity, balance wise it would be the most broken thing in a very long time...They should rather clean up the wording on their shit. 100% crit and solid stats for 3400g would just be beyond broken....