Like, I just don't understand...
Making QoL changes to the spire passive will not help Skarner win games. It won't make him more popular. He needs major change, and by that I mean the removal of the passive...
Please RIOT, why even bother with these changes? Just leave him alone if you aren't going to actually change or (heaven forbid) actually buff him...
Stuff like this just makes me sad inside...
DeathBurst2 votesPlease RIOT, why even bother with these changes?
Because they are super cheap to implement and a nice band-aid for the few people that still play him currently. It's a low risk/low reward move.
Shahamut2 voteslawl, this would be the kind of answer I would expect from Riot XD
DeathBurst2 votesWell, because it's true.
boricCentaur11 votesAs someone that plays skarner these changes do actually help him a lot it's a buff did you even read them since it helps his clear a lot and removing the passive would be stupid and would hurt him since a large part of his kit has been balanced around them and it is one of the only things that make him different from other champions. He needs to be reworked until then only small buff like this should be done.
Shahamut2 votesIts only a "buff" to his first clear. Do you play Skarner?
Skarner doesn't need the spires in order to counter jungle, the spires give info on enemy movements too, not just Skarners. He needs a new passive. The spires are a poorly thought out mechanic that shackle him to only being somewhat good in the jungle IF his team is winning. Skarner has ZERO solo control over HIS passive. His kit isn't balanced around his passive... not sure what gave you that idea...
Calling these changes anything other than QoL changes is a joke. Certainly not a "buff" as its not going to help Skarner be a better jungler or win games.
Oleandervine4 votesAs someone that plays skarner these changes do actually help him a lot it's a buff did you even read them since it helps his clear a lot and removing the passive would be stupid and would hurt him since a large part of his kit has been balanced around them and it is one of the only things that make him different from other champions. He needs to be reworked until then only small buff like this should be done.
The spires shouldn't have been added in to begin with. He went for numerous years without them, and was largely ok, and as the OP said, they do shackle him unnecessarily to parts of the map and make him completely dependent on locking down his own zones before he can be viable for any kind of fight. They're an utterly stupid addition to the game and create too many problems with Skarner. They had to buff his benefits from the spires to make him a scary ball of stats when he's got control, and this is a problem that older champions like Tryndamere, Dr. Mundo, Volibear, and pre-rework Nunu have and had because their kits were poorly designed and have aged terribly.
OBVIOUSLY if they removed the spires, they'd alter the other parts of his kit to accommodate their removal. The OP isn't asking for them to remove them and do nothing else. This also leads to another issue - if his kit is balanced around these stupid spires, that means too much of his power budget is crammed into his intense need to constantly be controlling points on the map, and preemptively at that, since he's got to control points to team fight effectively in. They aren't like Bard's chimes or Kindred's marks - they consume TOO MUCH of his effectiveness to allow him to be viable or reliable.
What makes Skarner really unique is his ultimate, which is a suppression where he can move his target for a brief time. THAT'S what made him unique, not some capture the flag minigame he's got to play against 5 other people.
Shahamut2 votes^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ok Im tired now... XD
Shiroe Okazaki1 votesThis makes his jgling so much better. This allows for better counter jgling and faster movment through river as well as taking objectives and fighting for them. Its a pretty decent buff to him
Shahamut1 votesits only going to be a boon to his first clear. It will have little to no effect after that. Still requires his team to be ahead to have control of the zones.
