What's more obnoxious than getting one shot by an assassin?

Gnart Even Close·Jan 17, 2016·5 votes·1,332 views

Playing against an ADC that can magically disengage without a support (you know, like Vayne and Tristana). Apparently ADCs aren't supposed to require good positioning and support from their team to succeed. All they need to do to get away from anyone is simply press a button. Tristana Rocket Jump away, now have fun killing her because you're not gonna succeed. Vayne has self peel for some stupid reason, which isn't even the most obnoxious part of her kit. Is it really too difficult to have roles that require certain skills? ADCs should require good positioning, teamwork, and kiting. Assassins should be the ones with mobility. Supports and tanks should have peel. Bruisers should be well rounded for everything. Mages should bring AOE magic damage and CC.

I know this is just pointless complaining because this will never change. Bring in the downvotes.

33 Comments

HEAljvLykdJan 17, 20163 votes

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Gnart Even CloseJan 19, 20161 votes

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Boards can literally complain about anything holy crap and of course you are silver.

This is one of the largest reasons why nobody listens to low Elo. You mistake your inability to correctly play the game for certain items/champs/runes/masteries/matchmaking algorithms being too op and want a fix/buff/nerf to any of the listed things. Just get better and really learn how to play the game and you'll stop complaining so much.

blame game imbalance and player frustration on my rank? ever consider that the champs have poorly designed parts of their kits, and riot should be working to reduce player frustration, which btw causes most raging in the game.

yes, i am silver and yes i am not great at the game. that does not mean i don't know what i'm talking about. these champions may be "balanced", but that is not the only measure that makes a champion a good champion. and even then, i'm not convinced that they're balanced at all.

The Bíg TicketJan 17, 20162 votes

Laning vs Quinn/Lissandra/Vayne/Ryze as a melee champ.

Gnart Even CloseJan 19, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Buff Jax please,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AfhXWE4j,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-01-17T23:55:35.700+0000)

Laning vs Quinn/Lissandra/Vayne/Ryze as a melee champ.

yup. or gnar, even though i love gnar, he is quite obnoxious

Maple CrusaderJan 17, 20161 votes

Getting killed by a champ who does no damage normally due to Thunderlord's/Corrupting Potion.

CrossetteJan 17, 20161 votes

this

Gnart Even CloseJan 19, 20161 votes

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Getting killed by a champ who does no damage normally due to Thunderlord's/Corrupting Potion.

or by grasp too

Big LincolnJan 17, 20161 votes

yeah every champ should play exactly the same xd

Gnart Even CloseJan 19, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AfhXWE4j,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-17T23:12:54.659+0000)

yeah every champ should play exactly the same xd

not exactly the same, but they should mostly fit into certain categories. for example, the adc archetype should be mostly immobile or only have a long cooldown escape (i.e. Ezreal). vayne, tristana, lucian, kindred, etc don't follow this at all and are incredibly frustrating. vayne is the most frustrating because she also has her condemn to self peel. adcs are supposed to be dps, the supports and tanks are supposed to be the peel. if there's a mix between two roles, that's one thing. it's entirely another to shatter what the role should mean.

PennsJan 17, 20161 votes

Adcs require a lot of teamwork atm... Trist might be able to get out with her W, but can she do any damage to that Malphite sitting there without peel?

Gnart Even CloseJan 19, 20161 votes

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Adcs require a lot of teamwork atm... Trist might be able to get out with her W, but can she do any damage to that Malphite sitting there without peel?

rocket jump away and then probably she'll be fine. i'm pretty sure it outranges maplhite's ult. and she has her own ult to push him away. as to whether she can fight him, that's probably not likely. and that's a good thing. even though malphite is pretty annoying too, he's not as bad as other champions like vayne and tristana.

EndlessSorcererJan 17, 20161 votes

I was expecting another complaint thread about a squishy champion getting one-shot by a tank.

I was disappointed.

Lunar LunacyJan 17, 20161 votes

Bruisers should be well rounded for everything while the super-squish adcs should lose their ability to keep themselves alive? Are you okay man? Try being an ADC main and then let's see what you think. An ADC will be the target of most enemy cc and abilities, people will dive like nuts to get to an ADC. ADCs absolutely need those survival tools.

CrossetteJan 17, 20161 votes

Lucian is literally the fucking stupidest champion in the game right now.

A dash, double crits after every ability and ridiculous damage on everything he does aside from W. (which gives him mobility anyways)

Gnart Even CloseJan 19, 20161 votes

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is literally the fucking stupidest champion in the game right now.

A dash, double crits after every ability and ridiculous damage on everything he does aside from W. (which gives him mobility anyways)

pretty much

TohobJan 17, 20161 votes

if what you're saying can be boiled down to "nerf Vayne " then i am 100% behind you.

i hate Vayne

Gnart Even CloseJan 19, 20162 votes

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if what you're saying can be boiled down to "nerf " then i am 100% behind you.

i hate

yes, nerf vayne and tristana. especially vayne

AkeneroJan 19, 20161 votes

HOW TO KILL VAYNE Lesson 1 of 80 Hit her Lesson complete Lesson 80 Dance party at barin and kill her there

2Become dustJan 17, 20161 votes

I cant even tell what your "complaint" is :s are u disliking the adcs? Or the current teamfighting strategies???

Gnart Even CloseJan 19, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=2Become dust,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AfhXWE4j,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-01-17T23:45:47.199+0000)

I cant even tell what your "complaint" is :s are u disliking the adcs? Or the current teamfighting strategies???

hating on a few specific adcs that have ridiculous mobility (vayne, tristana, lucian, etc). especially vayne

2Become dustJan 23, 20161 votes

I see... I do agree they are quite forgiving champions.. When it vomes to positioning

Gnart Even CloseJan 24, 20161 votes

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I see... I do agree they are quite forgiving champions.. When it vomes to positioning

they are. it's really stupid actually

khorneyJan 17, 20161 votes

varus on the other hand has 0 self peel 0 escape

XicashinaJan 17, 20162 votes

Um he has an Ult which is hard CC and an AOE slow?

khorneyJan 18, 20161 votes

try to get away from xin or jax ohh wait you cant varus himself is slow as hell and the small aoe slow really doesnt do anything

XicashinaJan 18, 20161 votes

Not denying that you get blown up by any assassin ever just saying that he technically does have self peel. Technicalities are important XD

khorneyJan 18, 20161 votes

i see that but again trist and him 2 different people. i mean sure if i have flash up i can kill them depending on if im fed enough wait for the jump then flash away ult and boom. ap tends to work out better

Maximum MordeJan 19, 20161 votes

I was gonna answer getting two shot by a tank.

Gnart Even CloseJan 19, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AfhXWE4j,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2016-01-19T12:30:58.738+0000)

I was gonna answer getting two shot by a tank.

most tanks are melee. melee > ranged. but i agree it shouldn't be two shot, it should be like 5 shot

AkeneroJan 19, 20161 votes

being melee vs urgot top

And the urgot knows what he's doing

PDE5 InhibitorsJan 19, 20161 votes

LOL

Troy242621Jan 23, 20161 votes

Ekko Being 3 shot by a tank.

Gnart Even CloseJan 24, 20162 votes

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Being 3 shot by a tank.

that's pretty obnoxious too. especially when that tank has ridiculous mobility. i'm noticing a trend here. it's almost like mobility is a type of cancer... (yet i play ridiculously mobile champions like gnar that are hella obnoxious to play against)